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Old 04-25-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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I'm scheduled to take the PA DMV Road test to get my license at the Penn Hills DMV Licensing Center. As you know, there are two main methods of steering. One is the hand over hand method and the other is the shuffle method of steering. Do they allow hand over hand steering for the test? Also, for the test, is it ok to allow the steering wheel to slide through your hands from the power steering feature of the car after making a turn? Any feedback would be much appreciated.

thanks.
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Old 04-25-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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I'm scheduled to take the PA DMV Road test to get my license at the Penn Hills DMV Licensing Center. As you know, there are two main methods of steering. One is the hand over hand method and the other is the shuffle method of steering. Do they allow hand over hand steering for the test? Also, for the test, is it ok to allow the steering wheel to slide through your hands from the power steering feature of the car after making a turn? Any feedback would be much appreciated.

thanks.
It's been quite a long time since I took the test, so things could have changed, but for what it's worth. The hand, over hand was what they wanted, and allowing the steering wheel to slide through your hands would cause you to lose points.

Good luck on the test.

ETA: I found this. On page 60, it said either the hand over hand, or shuffle method of steering is acceptable.

http://driving-tests.org/pennsylvani...ndbook-online/

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Old 04-25-2016, 04:47 PM
 
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Great! I must have missed reading the part when the manual discusses hand over hand and pull-push methods on page 60. Thanks so much stburr91. I'll make sure not to let the steering wheel slide through my hands. Thanks again.
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Old 04-26-2016, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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It's only been 8 years since I took my drivers test but I wasn't sure as well. I always thought as long as you had two hands on the wheel at all times, they wouldn't worry about which method you used.
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Old 04-26-2016, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Close to Pittsburgh, but NOT Pittsburgh ('cause I don't pay CoP taxes)
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Guh... part of the reason I failed my first driver's exam was for NOT using the hand-over-hand method.

I also failed to slow down and stop at the end of an on ramp...

"Try again next week, kid."
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Old 04-27-2016, 08:26 AM
 
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I find it interesting that a lot of the techniques the DMV encourages are improper and unsafe technique for a lot of advanced driving. Some skills I understand driver's ed classes not teaching (like heel/toe braking), but others seem like they'd be common sense.

At a typical driver's education class they teach hand over hand and using your right foot to brake, but once you start getting into motorsports it becomes the opposite.

For steering you use either:
-Shuffle method for smoother turning which leads to less weight transfer, thereby improving grip
-9 and 3 instead of 10 and 2 so that you can turn the wheel further before your hands begin to cross or before there's a need to only have 1 hand on the steering wheel

Also, you can let the steering wheel slip through your fingers in some cases on corner exit (so that the tires feel the road and there's less chance to overload the tires by forcing them to do something unnatural based on rigid steering input).

Heel/toe braking technique I see being impractical on the road, but left foot braking which is common in Solo/Autocross events could actually be SAFER for most drivers since it reduces braking reaction times.

Ok, I'm done ranting (I think).
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Old 04-27-2016, 08:30 AM
 
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If you brake with your left foot, what do you push the clutch with?
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Old 04-27-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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Left foot braking can result in pounding the gas with your right foot when you meant to brake.
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Old 04-27-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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If you brake with your left foot, what do you push the clutch with?
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Old 04-27-2016, 11:06 AM
 
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If you brake with your left foot, what do you push the clutch with?
"Is this a shifter car? I cannot drive a shifter car, alright, so we got a little situation here. I can't drive these kinda cars! What the **** is goin' on! You think that's funny? Would you like to know, smartass? Would you like to know why I can't drive this kinda car? I'll tell you why, I'm used to *luxury* cars. Have you ever heard of a luxury car? You know what luxury means? Ever heard of Cadillac, Cadillac Eldorado? That's what I drive. I drive cars that *shift* themselves. "


-Billy Brown
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