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Old 06-07-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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WOW. You really have never been to the rural south have you? We may have bouts of racism, but geeze that is the most ignorant comment I've ever heard.
I have been to the south for trips and vacations, what part of what I said is ignorant? I have experienced a sort of racism in Pittsburgh that seems somehow acceptable. Granted, it seems to be disappearing with newer generations, but what I have witnessed and heard from people here in my short 43 years on this Earth has been appalling. Racial slurs uttered so matter of factly, that it appears as part of one's regular vocabulary. So what part was ignorant? And what exactly are "bouts of racism"? I wasn't aware racism was like the flu, now that is ignorant...
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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Ah well that makes sense. I wonder if perhaps the fact that he may be there due to circumstances out of his control could be a major part of any disdain he may have about places other than Pittsburgh. When I was in Alaska, most people very much enjoyed being there, however, those that hated were for the most part military who were stationed there against their wishes.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:08 AM
 
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Norcider,
I will give you, and Pittsburgh, that things do seem to be headed in a generally more positive direction. Just at a snail's pace. There's no doubt in my mind that, if the right decisions are made by the majority of locals, that in 20 years Pittsburgh could be the next Seattle or Austin or the next city to go to. But I just don't have the time to wait however long that may take.

Or it may not happen at all,
not worth the risk.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Northeast Suburbs of PITTSBURGH
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I have been to the south for trips and vacations, what part of what I said is ignorant? I have experienced a sort of racism in Pittsburgh that seems somehow acceptable. Granted, it seems to be disappearing with newer generations, but what I have witnessed and heard from people here in my short 43 years on this Earth has been appalling. Racial slurs uttered so matter of factly, that it appears as part of one's regular vocabulary. So what part was ignorant? And what exactly are "bouts of racism"? I wasn't aware racism was like the flu, now that is ignorant...
Take a trip to Mississippi and tell me how it's residents act similar to Pittsburghers. I've been called a Yankee at a gas station I-59 on my to New Orleans (assuming because I had a Pennsylvania license plate).

Atlanta may be a new age city and the sterotypical backwards southern people gone, but large portions of the south still think in the civil war era, especially Mississippi.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:11 AM
 
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I never heard the term "Up South" until I met a co-worker who was a Mississippi transplant relate her experience moving to Pittsburgh. That's what she called Western PA, Up South. From my experiences, she was dead right.
Black folks have referred to Western PA as up south for generations. Mainly do to Jim Crow and Segregation.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:13 AM
 
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Black folks have referred to Western PA as up south for generations. Mainly do to Jim Crow and Segregation.
And doesn't that say something that this white dude never heard of it until I was in my early 20's?
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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Take a trip to Mississippi and tell me how it's residents act similar to Pittsburghers. I've been called a Yankee at a gas station I-59 on my to New Orleans (assuming because I had a Pennsylvania license plate).

Atlanta may be a new age city and the sterotypical backwards southern people gone, but large portions of the south still think in the civil war era, especially Mississippi.
I don't need to take that trip, and I never made that comparison. If you had read what I wrote my Mississippi ex-pat coworker related her experience coming here. I can not make an ignorant statement based on MY observations and that of my coworker's. It's a real thing, I am not basing my judgement on inaccuracies, which is what ignorant would imply.

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Old 06-07-2016, 10:19 AM
 
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Take a trip to Mississippi and tell me how it's residents act similar to Pittsburghers. I've been called a Yankee at a gas station I-59 on my to New Orleans (assuming because I had a Pennsylvania license plate).

Atlanta may be a new age city and the sterotypical backwards southern people gone, but large portions of the south still think in the civil war era, especially Mississippi.
My family is originally from Scottdale PA. Do you want to talk about backwards? Clairton, Elizabeth, West Elizabeth, Butler,........ There are really to many places in SW PA to name.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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norcider,
Just out of curiosity, did she have any issues with how she was treated as a non-yinzer (that she may have mentioned) along with her observations regarding racism?

My second job requires me to work with a great deal of college students who share my opinion, and unfortunately for the city, are all planning an immediate exit after graduation.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Northeast Suburbs of PITTSBURGH
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I never heard the term "Up South" until I met a co-worker who was a Mississippi transplant relate her experience moving to Pittsburgh. That's what she called Western PA, Up South. From my experiences, she was dead right.
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And doesn't that say something that this white dude never heard of it until I was in my early 20's?
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I don't need to take that trip, and I never made that comparison. If you had read what I wrote my Mississippi ex-pat coworker related her experience coming here. I can not make an ignorant statement based on MY observations and that of my coworker's. It's a real thing, I am not basing my judgement on innacuracies, which is what ignorant would imply.
You said without ever having experience in rural MS that your experience in Pittsburgh was similar. How can you claim ito innaccurate without having experience there?

Two differing opinions I guess.
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