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Old 09-20-2016, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I just returned to Pittsburgh after spending a few days in Arlington, VA to visit my brother (who moved there for a job about a year ago). The cost of living is much higher there and entry level wages, by and large, seem to not be enough to get one independently near the core areas in a style that someone in Pittsburgh might expect, but the demographics and long-term prospects seemed to blow Pittsburgh off the map. I felt like I was returning to a backwater.

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Old 09-20-2016, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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"We’re from the town with that great football team, We cheer the Pittsburgh Steelers. Winning’s a habit, not only a dream, Go out and get them Steelers!"

Pittsburgh has a reputation for football
With all due respect to football fans and apologies for being so boorish, it seems that as long as so many sincerly invoke a sports team as a serious asset then that town is destined to be more like corn-husking middle-america than anywhere else.
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Old 09-20-2016, 05:54 PM
 
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I just returned to Pittsburgh after spending a few days in Arlington, VA to visit my brother (who moved there for a job about a year ago). The cost of living is much higher there and entry level wages, by and large, seem to not be enough to get one independently near the core areas in a style that someone in Pittsburgh might expect, but the demographics and long-term prospects seemed to blow Pittsburgh off the map. I felt like I was returning to a backwater.
It shouldn't come as a surprise the Pittsburgh compares unfavorably to Washington, DC. I do believe, however that your underselling the difference in COL, and quality of life it can provide. I'd much rather raise my family in Shadyside than somewhere like Reston, VA (which is about what I'd be able to afford in that area). No one Pittsburgh compares to DC, but I'm of the belief that DC is one of the worst value propositions in the country, in terms of what the city offers versus COL. Not only do "cheap" big cities like Chicago and Philadelphia offer more bang for the buck, I'd argue that NY and Boston do too.
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Old 09-20-2016, 07:30 PM
 
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I just returned to Pittsburgh after spending a few days in Arlington, VA...I felt like I was returning to a backwater.
I love Arlington County. Even the south part of the county is immaculate and much improved (Shirlington, for example). I feel that way too about returning here, although I might not say I'm returning to a "backwater".

Now your brother has been there a year. I take it he might be a young professional (under 33)? The disadvantages might not be apparent, and won't be until he gets older and is too mentally tired to deal with traffic and the hectic, impersonal pace of life there (not that it hasn't gotten like that HERE).

I'm not gloating in his decision to locate there, but just pointing out that the long term prospects for better wages might end up not being worth it to some after sharing a home becomes intolerable, and you see the fortune you have to sink into a house.

Yes, pay here is...lowly, but I maintain a fuller, happier, sane urban life is more attainable here.
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Old 09-20-2016, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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With all due respect to football fans and apologies for being so boorish, it seems that as long as so many sincerly invoke a sports team as a serious asset then that town is destined to be more like corn-husking middle-america than anywhere else.
Steel and sports, especially football. That's what it's always been known for.
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Old 09-20-2016, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Lawrenceville, Pittsburgh
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Steel and sports, especially football. That's what it's always been known for.
Always? The Steelers haven't been relevant for that long in the scheme of the city's history...
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Old 09-20-2016, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Always? The Steelers haven't been relevant for that long in the scheme of the city's history...
Really? Not sure how far back you're going as they've been around over 80 years, but then again, you may not be a football fan. Many may not know much about Pittsburgh but most anyone you ask knows about it being related to steel and football.
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Old 09-21-2016, 05:14 AM
 
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Always? The Steelers haven't been relevant for that long in the scheme of the city's history...
um....I'd point to 1972 for starters, maybe earlier if you consider the excitement and expectations that could have surrounded drafting of Terry Bradshaw's (who I think is a fantastic commentator/host, by the way). I am speculating - I was not witness to that era.

But if you take 1972, you are talking close to 50 years, you know!
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Old 09-21-2016, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Lawrenceville, Pittsburgh
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Right, so Pittsburgh was founded in 1758 and incorporated as a city in 1816. I will give you that Pittsburgh has been known for football for 50 years. "Always"? For a place that has been around for over 200 years? Sorry, I get that it is probably just a lack of careful choosing of words, but Pittsburgh has been known for industry, commerce, and technology that has been produced here for far longer than it has been known for football.
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Old 09-21-2016, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Lawrenceville, Pittsburgh
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That said, I am not in any denial at all that Pittsburgh is known as a football town.
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