Politics and football (condo, school, living)

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

I think that was villageidiot1's point! They should have put the seniors in early, then taken out all but the starters.

My kids' HS gymnastics coach did similar.

We must be talking insignificant schools or things have totally changed if that's the case. Protocol was to start the best players, get a lead and then sprinkle seniors in here and there. Same with college. If the game was out of reach, then the non-starters got more time. Winning always took precedence over feelings.

[villageidiot1]

Originally Posted by erieguy

What colleges are giving non-starters playing time at the beginning of the game?

I've witnessed it with Division II and III teams. It seems like I have seen some DI basketball teams do it, but I can't say for sure. Being down by 2 or 4 points in a basketball game is easier than being down by a touchdown in football.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by villageidiot1

I've witnessed it with Division II and III teams. It seems like I have seen some DI basketball teams do it, but I can't say for sure. Being down by 2 or 4 points in a basketball game is easier than being down by a touchdown in football.

That makes sense. I can't imagine that being adopted into a Division 1 program, though.

[safak]

Its H.S. crunch time. a game that close, with playoff spots up for grabs you can't take a series and give the opponent a huge advantage by putting in kids that aren't as good.

I mean if your in Latrobe or something where they have been out of the running for a month thats one thing, but if you are in a really good school district(for fb anyway) or even a borderline playoff team or something you just can't do that in games that are that close. You just can't

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by erieguy

We must be talking insignificant schools or things have totally changed if that's the case. Protocol was to start the best players, get a lead and then sprinkle seniors in here and there. Same with college. If the game was out of reach, then the non-starters got more time. Winning always took precedence over feelings.

I'm talking senior recognition night only.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

I'm talking senior recognition night only.

Even then it's an insignificant school that's going to do that. Senior recognition night or not, if you're a significant program and you're not a starter, you're not seeing a snap unless your team is winning big or losing big.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by safak

Its H.S. crunch time. a game that close, with playoff spots up for grabs you can't take a series and give the opponent a huge advantage by putting in kids that aren't as good.

I mean if your in Latrobe or something where they have been out of the running for a month thats one thing, but if you are in a really good school district(for fb anyway) or even a borderline playoff team or something you just can't do that in games that are that close. You just can't

Exactly.

[jay5835]

Originally Posted by okaydorothy

Last summer he didn't attend football camp as he was in basic training for the national guard as a junior. He returned to school to finish high school and since then, he has barely played.
[...]
the star players are the drinkers and the pot takers. The regular straight kids who don't drink or smoke are the ones who are the practice buddies for these star players and the punching bags for these kids.

If the popular kids are drinkers and druggies, they may have learned that behavior at home from their old hippie parents. And such parents might still think of the military as uncool. ROTC was a very dirty word in their baby boomer youth. Some -- most, in fact -- of my favorite Vietnam protesters hailed from the South Hills.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by jay5835

If the popular kids are drinkers and druggies, they may have learned that behavior at home from their old hippie parents. And such parents might still think of the military as uncool. ROTC was a very dirty word in their baby boomer youth. Some -- most, in fact -- of my favorite Vietnam protesters hailed from the South Hills.

When hasn't there been drinkers and pot smokers in high school, and especially at most every party?

It seems that some just don't know the extreme importance put on high school football. Whether one can understand it or not or thinks it's right or wrong, the best players play and the emphasis is all on winning. Is it extreme? Yes it is but that's football at the high school, college, and pro levels.

[safak]

Originally Posted by jay5835

If the popular kids are drinkers and druggies, they may have learned that behavior at home from their old hippie parents. And such parents might still think of the military as uncool. ROTC was a very dirty word in their baby boomer youth. Some -- most, in fact -- of my favorite Vietnam protesters hailed from the South Hills.

but you have to admit, anyone labeling them as 'pot takers' does not exactly have their finger on the pulse of h.s. culture so , im going to take her totally made up point that the star players are a bunch of bad kids with a grain of salt.