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Old 03-28-2018, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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They ride for free. They grew up in a housing bubble, but hardly as bad as Pittsburgh losing 1/2 its population. The government just borrowed more money for that last little hiccup. The young people probably didn't even notice it.
The government didn't borrow money for a hiccup. It borrowed to give a tax cut to the rich. Whether the young people noticed that or not, I can't say. But they have certainly noticed they are poorer and earning less than either Boomers or Gen X was at the same age. The recession hit hardest among people just looking for their first job or just starting out.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ents/96530338/
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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I find I've been taking the bus more, too, mainly because of the app. I can see if one is coming down the street and not have to wait. Much easier than driving, and don't have to worry about looking for parking. Easy on and off.
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I love the app. I see people crowding onto the bus out of Oakland because they don't know there's another one two minutes behind. I can wait the two minutes and usually get an uncrowded ride.
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:10 AM
 
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Uber/Lyft is a big reason why transit ridership is down. Because of redevelopment in more core neighborhoods in Pittsburgh (Lawrnecville, East Liberty, etc.) many people are taking public transit to work or school during the day and I imagine day time ridership is actually up. It changes at night when busses run less often so people are more liable to take Uber since it is direct door to door service.
As far as Philadelphia, last year there was a strike for about a week that completely shut down service so that might have played a part in -4%
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Old 03-29-2018, 03:26 PM
 
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What is with all the bitching and moaning about generational issues on this board. Stick to the topic, or go start your own thread about that.
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Old 03-30-2018, 05:12 AM
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What is with all the bitching and moaning about generational issues on this board. Stick to the topic, or go start your own thread about that.
This.
I get it some of you feel the need to rant. Here's a free tip for you: start a blog. You will be able to rant all you want there about millennials, streetcars, population loss/gain or whatever made up/blown out of proportion issue irritates you today.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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For the most recent numbers released, looks like a lot of cities continued to drop in public transit riders. Some of the ones that had big declines last year continued big declines compared to a year ago...

Detroit - 19%
Cleveland -15% ()
Cincinnati -8%
Baltimore - 9%
Boston - 11%

Philly -4%
Pittsburgh -0.03%



https://www.apta.com/resources/stati...rship-APTA.pdf
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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For the most recent numbers released, looks like a lot of cities continued to drop in public transit riders. Some of the ones that had big declines last year continued big declines compared to a year ago...

Detroit - 19%
Cleveland -15% ()
Cincinnati -8%
Baltimore - 9%
Boston - 11%

Philly -4%
Pittsburgh -0.03%



https://www.apta.com/resources/stati...rship-APTA.pdf
Drilling down, Pittsburgh's bus ridership was up by 0.41%, but this was offset in a decline in T ridership by 2.14%.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Weirton, W. Va.
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For the most recent numbers released, looks like a lot of cities continued to drop in public transit riders. Some of the ones that had big declines last year continued big declines compared to a year ago...

Detroit - 19%
Cleveland -15% ()
Cincinnati -8%
Baltimore - 9%
Boston - 11%

Philly -4%
Pittsburgh -0.03%



https://www.apta.com/resources/stati...rship-APTA.pdf
Not really surprising. Companies are offering a lot more work remote options as well as incentives such as discounted parking or free parking at their building. Couple that with rideshare options and downtown living you don’t need to wait on a bus or rail anymore.

Working remote is a big hit with the older end of the millennial that can live in the suburbs and work in their living room.

The wave of the future is self driving vehicles and ride share. More options and competition is a good thing.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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Drilling down, Pittsburgh's bus ridership was up by 0.41%, but this was offset in a decline in T ridership by 2.14%.
The T lines have been so messed up this past year with the red line improvements, flooding this/last summer, and the station square mess. I wonder how much that contributed to the decline...
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