East Pittsburgh police shoot teen in back (getaway, bike)

[Yac]

As always, I realize this is an emotional topic, but if you all could approach this rationally instead of throwing accusations around, would be great. Also if you would ignore obvious trolls, as I've a feeling one might come back, it would be awesome.
Carry on.
Yac.

[Yac]

As a follow up, since the troll came back: coming here only to call other members names, that's not ok. Expressing your anger is not a problem, as long as it's directed at the source, not used to randomly attacks anyone who dares not to share it. Yes, even if the anger is justified, even if there is a valid reason.
People are different, some are idiots, some have idiotic opinions. And it's ok, as long as they don't act on them. You start telling people what they can/can not think ? You're heading straight into an orwellian dystopia, where there is the "correct way" of thinking, and anyone having a different opinion is the enemy. Where facts are completely irrelevant and opinions and feelings rule. You're basically going back to the middle ages, before people came up with the scientific method. You change your fight from a factual one into a religious one.
Now why people feel like embracing totalitarian methods to fight this supposed totalitarianism, I've no idea. How they figured it would be ok to throw the nastiest labels around, especially against people that only had an opinion different from them, I don't know. Suddenly everybody who disagrees is hitler.. I wonder what kind of words you'll be left with if or when real hitler comes around ? Also, do you think a world where only one point of view is "good" will be a better place ?
Calm down, stop adding insult to injury, stop attacking other members.
Yac.

[Lost_In_Translation]

The tilt here has certainly suggested that many here feel Antwon was a continuing threat, something I strongly disagree with. There is no reason to assume this was a random killing spree he was involved with and that it would continue beyond what had already occcurred. I feel the evidence coming to light will show the failure of the officer to properly gauge the situation and instead of de-escalating and calling for support, he made the executive decision to take Antwon’s life because he felt he had the authority to and judged Antwon guilty and therefore deserving execution. No other facts have been presented to show otherwise and if they existed I feel like the department would have issued them already. If the only additional evidence they have is against the car and the drive by, that doesn’t remove the officers culpability.

[tyovan4]

Grant St is shut down by protesters. https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-storie...urgh/773155104

State Police helicopter has been circling very low over Uptown and Downtown this morning.

[Icy Tea]

We still have many unanswered questions and a reluctance of the police and the media to bring the facts of the case to the citizens. We haven't heard anything about the other man who was shot or why. We haven't heard anything about the other passenger who is still apparently at large and being searched for. Antwon had to have known him and if they were passengers that hired that jitney they should know who it was. They haven't offered up any statements indicating what they think happened, if Antwon was just a bystander( highly unlikely) or if he participated in the shooting of the other man.
The media has done just a craptastic job on this and you'd think the local news would have kept the story focused on what really happened. Nope. And the police haven't done anything to help keep the peace. Sitting on what they know to protect the case is one thing, letting the city go to pot is another. Both sides are playing politics with this and its the citizens who are the real victims.
And how the people of Pittsburgh reacted to this, they can join the loser list, too.

[tyovan4]

They are now sitting in a circle, blocking the intersection of Grant St and the Boulevard of the Allies.
WATCH LIVE: Antwon Rose protesters march into downtown Pittsburgh and block traffic

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by tyovan4

Grant St is shut down by protesters. https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-storie...urgh/773155104

State Police helicopter has been circling very low over Uptown and Downtown this morning.

I was just on Grant Street on a bike with my son in a trailer. Admittedly I didn't get any further than the USX building, but I didn't see anything, not even unusual levels of traffic.

[tyovan4]

Originally Posted by eschaton

I was just on Grant Street on a bike with my son in a trailer. Admittedly I didn't get any further than the USX building, but I didn't see anything, not even unusual levels of traffic.

A group of 100 marched down Grant from Uptown/the Hill.
They stopped briefly at the Courthouse.
Now they're sitting in a circle and blocking Grant & the Boulevard.

[gg]

I just noticed the officer involved is a part-time officer. He is on unpaid leave. Part-time officers make very little money. He might have been making like $10-15 an hour.

Guess I get protesting all over the city instead of that tiny little place of 2,000 people. I feel bad for the city of Pittsburgh that will have to endure all of this for a very long time and they weren't involved. Guess it is collateral damage.

[Enough_Already]

Originally Posted by Lost_In_Translation

The tilt here has certainly suggested that many here feel Antwon was a continuing threat, something I strongly disagree with. There is no reason to assume this was a random killing spree he was involved with and that it would continue beyond what had already occcurred. I feel the evidence coming to light will show the failure of the officer to properly gauge the situation and instead of de-escalating and calling for support, he made the executive decision to take Antwon’s life because he felt he had the authority to and judged Antwon guilty and therefore deserving execution. No other facts have been presented to show otherwise and if they existed I feel like the department would have issued them already. If the only additional evidence they have is against the car and the drive by, that doesn’t remove the officers culpability.

The criminal was involved in a violent felony minutes before. I would not someone who had just been at the scene of a driving by shooting running loose in my neighborhood. Maybe that does not bother you?

This action seems to fit well with the PA law covering using force. Bike Lane Bill has only made the situation worse with his blatant pandering.

This is not about if Antwon was guilty, it is about the police using lawful force based on the best information they had at the time. Using words like "execution" is inflammatory and does not move the discussion forward.