When do you all think Pittsburgh will start increasing in population? (Beaver: appointed, 2014)

[Joe_P]

More people do live in Allegheny county than its adjacent counties. It's not even close.

[bradjl2009]

Originally Posted by Joe_P

More people do live in Allegheny county than its adjacent counties. It's not even close.

Not only that, more people live in Allegheny County than the other counties that are part of the metro combined.

[xdv8]

Originally Posted by bradjl2009

Not only that, more people live in Allegheny County than the other counties that are part of the metro combined.

Right, the notion that the sparsely populated satellite counties surrounding Allegheny are booming is not accurate. They have slight gains in population due to already being very low population areas. Beaver and Butler Counties combined barely have more people than the tiny City limits.

[gladhands]

Originally Posted by tyovan4

You're either a troll or an elitist snob with your nose so far up in the air that you can no longer see reality.
A place like the Mon Valley =/= a place like Cranberry.

People don't voluntarily move to deprived, economically depressed areas because they want a lower tax burden. They move there because that's where they can afford to live, or they're trapped there by poverty or by family ties.

Those places have no reason to exist. Poor Black people were able to flee the south for opportunity. Poor people in Latin America come to this country for opportunity. Poor people from rural areas and former mill towns need to move closer to major employment centers. Come out of the wilderness.

[gg]

Originally Posted by gladhands

Those places have no reason to exist. Come out of the wilderness.

There are jobs that aren't in the city. Natural gas, lumber and a host of other jobs. Not everyone pushes a pencil or is stuck in the city. Towns have reasons to exist in many cases. Not to mention, just because a town is in poor shape now doesn't mean it won't recover. For all we know towns outside of Pittsburgh will do quite well in 40 years as tides change.

[xdv8]

Originally Posted by gg

There are jobs that aren't in the city. Natural gas, lumber and a host of other jobs. Not everyone pushes a pencil or is stuck in the city. Towns have reasons to exist in many cases. Not to mention, just because a town is in poor shape now doesn't mean it won't recover. For all we know towns outside of Pittsburgh will do quite well in 40 years as tides change.

Tides have been changing for the last 40 years, that's why rural areas are dying. The change isn't going the other way and I don't see any macro effects that hint that it will. We aren't a developing country, we are stable and low skill labor ain't what we do any more.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Joe_P

More people do live in Allegheny county than its adjacent counties. It's not even close.

Nobody said otherwise. The topic, however, is about when Pittsburgh will increase in population, and talk of Allegheny County. If/when these areas become more desirable, they’ll increase in population.

[pittsburghaccuweather]

Originally Posted by gg

There are jobs that aren't in the city. Natural gas, lumber and a host of other jobs. Not everyone pushes a pencil or is stuck in the city. Towns have reasons to exist in many cases. Not to mention, just because a town is in poor shape now doesn't mean it won't recover. For all we know towns outside of Pittsburgh will do quite well in 40 years as tides change.

You are correct my friend.

Originally Posted by xdv8

Tides have been changing for the last 40 years, that's why rural areas are dying. The change isn't going the other way and I don't see any macro effects that hint that it will. We aren't a developing country, we are stable and low skill labor ain't what we do any more.

Not so much. The millennials in the big city was short lived. It looks like the preference is suburbs and exburbs with small walkable business districts. Washington, Weirton, Wheeling, Greensburg, Bellevue, dormont and McKeesport are some that come to mind. And it wouldn’t be far fetched for somebody to commute from Weirton to a job in the east end. According to the article commute times are nearly 2 hours one way.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bus...ty-city-2019-7

There was a great article in the Columbus paper regarding a small Ohio Village being revived by millennials in a rural part of a northern suburban county. It backs up the above article this is happening.

https://www.columbusunderground.com/...XKm5DFbHYn3gkc

[Joe_P]

Nobody said otherwise. The topic, however, is about when Pittsburgh will increase in population, and talk of Allegheny County. If/when these areas become more desirable, they’ll increase in population

My response was in context of a previous comment.

[Joe_P]

The millennials in the big city was short lived. It looks like the preference is suburbs and exburbs with small walkable business districts. Washington, Weirton, Wheeling, Greensburg, Bellevue, dormont and McKeesport are some that come to mind. And it wouldn’t be far fetched for somebody to commute from Weirton

Millennials are not moving to Weirton.