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Old Yesterday, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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I think many, many more people are classist vs. racist.

I, for example, am admittedly classist.

Although I'm middle-class I don't like to be around trashy behavior perpetuated by anyone of any race, social class, or socioeconomic status.

I'd much rather live beside a kind quiet impoverished African-American family than a rude, boorish, vulgar affluent Caucasian family. In this scenario I interpret "social class" to be based upon behavior---not fiduciary means (or lack thereof).

I think most people are the same way. I'd rather live in a place like Bowie, MD (majority-African-American, very educated, low crime, lots of good hard-working people) than in a place like Carrick (majority-Caucasian, below-average educational attainment, high crime, lots of trashy people).

I don't care what race you are. I just care that you're a good person who is conscientious and considerate of your neighbors.

I think this thread is beginning to segue away from the original topic, and we need to loop it back around (coming from the kind of thread derailments---I know).
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Old Yesterday, 12:11 PM
 
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Hate is hate no matter where it is at or who it is directed towards. Hate doesn't have a political affiliation or a neighborhood that it resides in. I see a lot of hate in the city and less in the suburbs but i am sure if i was born a diffrent race, gender or orientation i would see it diffrently but if you think it doesnt exist at a large level in the city than you would be mistaken.

Agree, love is love and hate is hate. I have no issues with anyone who treats me with respect. Being white I know I do not see the same things someone else does but it does allow me to see what some other white people truly feel. Many white people disgust me but I am happy to say it is much more the older generation and less the younger generations which gives me hope overall we are moving in the right direction. Tolerance goes both ways though, you can not pick 1 aspect and then denounce the person overall. As a right leaning person, more so for business and less for many social issues, I feel much hate because it seems the ultra left (like the ultra right) dismiss anyone not in 100% agreement with them. Main difference I see is the ultra left are much more vocal and the media embraces it vs the ultra right.
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Old Yesterday, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I really don't care less who my neighbors vote for, because no matter where I live, I'm going to be to the left of 90%+ of the people, being an outright socialist. I'm also not apt to talk to my neighbors much.

That said, the things I personally look for in a neighborhood (historic houses, walkability, access to transit, vegetarian restaurants, etc) tend to attract liberals anyway.
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Old Yesterday, 12:13 PM
 
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I think many, many more people are classist vs. racist.

I, for example, am admittedly classist.

Although I'm middle-class I don't like to be around trashy behavior perpetuated by anyone of any race, social class, or socioeconomic status.

I'd much rather live beside a kind quiet impoverished African-American family than a rude, boorish, vulgar affluent Caucasian family. In this scenario I interpret "social class" to be based upon behavior---not fiduciary means (or lack thereof).

I think most people are the same way. I'd rather live in a place like Bowie, MD (majority-African-American, very educated, low crime, lots of good hard-working people) than in a place like Carrick (majority-Caucasian, below-average educational attainment, high crime, lots of trashy people).

I don't care what race you are. I just care that you're a good person who is conscientious and considerate of your neighbors.

I think this thread is beginning to segue away from the original topic, and we need to loop it back around (coming from the kind of thread derailments---I know).
I think you are correct.
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Old Yesterday, 12:16 PM
 
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How so? He's the most overtly racist politician to hit the national stage in decades. Now, either you don't see the racism, meaning you're oblivious, or your tolerance for overt racism is high enough to allow you to continue supporting him.
Joe biden ?
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Old Yesterday, 12:19 PM
 
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How so? He's the most overtly racist politician to hit the national stage in decades. Now, either you don't see the racism, meaning you're oblivious, or your tolerance for overt racism is high enough to allow you to continue supporting him.

I've long known there is no point arguing with someone who makes a blanket statement of 100% of anything is a fact.


I completely agree he cant keep his mouth shut and creates many of his own issues, I'm not sure he is more racist than every other president. Others might just have had more tact when talking in public. I look at every politician as a whole and how they can actually impact the country (not what ignorant people think they can actually change). Give me someone that aligns with my economic beliefs who is also a good person and I will gladly vote for them.
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Old Yesterday, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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I completely agree he cant keep his mouth shut and creates many of his own issues.
Hey! I resemble that remark!
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Old Yesterday, 12:27 PM
 
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I think many, many more people are classist vs. racist.

As many like to say, BINGO. That is the issue, people take anything without regard to intend and call it racism.


I grew up poor and worked hard to get where I am. I am not comfortable with as you say trashy people but I am also not comfortable with entitled elitist either. Just show me respect and I will do the same, I am not going to push my beliefs on anyone as I understand we all have a reason for why we think the way we do. If we differ too much, that's fine but I'm not going to attack you just will not associate.
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Old Yesterday, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Saying obviously racist things and doing racist actions yet insisting there is no racism involved is going to destroy the social fabric quicker than plain racism.
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Old Yesterday, 12:33 PM
 
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As many like to say, BINGO. That is the issue, people take anything without regard to intend and call it racism.


I grew up poor and worked hard to get where I am. I am not comfortable with as you say trashy people but I am also not comfortable with entitled elitist either. Just show me respect and I will do the same, I am not going to push my beliefs on anyone as I understand we all have a reason for why we think the way we do. If we differ too much, that's fine but I'm not going to attack you just will not associate.
Bingo or double bingo i dont know. Please, erieguy can you help me out here?
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