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Old Yesterday, 02:57 PM
 
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It's not relevant to this thread. Start a new one? Mainly I wouldn't live outside of the city because I spend all of my Pittsburgh time in the city and I'm not a freeloader. I also like areas that are active and growing. Mt. Lebo or Dormont are just meh for me. There would always be a City neighborhood more appealing to me. I have other reasons, but they have nothing to do with Club One.

I own a home nearby the club one and have been a member of the club before. They took a big chance setting up on Penn at the time they did when East Liberty was to many a no-go zone due to crime. It's the end of an era, but in a good way. The increased density will demand more services and East Liberty will continue to grow.

I hope Davis builds something that looks Ok, that's my main gripe.

Next up: Village of Eastside
The Village of Shadyside / East Liberty Station is a fairly new project with newer infrastructure. The plaza opened in 86/87 and was what appeared to be a brown field. I am not sure what was there prior to though. The plaza should develop the lot closer to penn avenue with ground floor retail and apartments above. A street wall can be added while keeping the plaza intact.
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Old Today, 06:31 AM
 
Location: East End, Pittsburgh
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The Village of Shadyside / East Liberty Station is a fairly new project with newer infrastructure. The plaza opened in 86/87 and was what appeared to be a brown field. I am not sure what was there prior to though. The plaza should develop the lot closer to penn avenue with ground floor retail and apartments above. A street wall can be added while keeping the plaza intact.
Before 86/87 it was still a train station, I believe.

I completely agree with you on what they should do to improve the plaza.
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Old Today, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Wow, East Liberty is sure changing.
Technically that area - just like Eastside Bond and Bakery Square - is in Shadyside, not East Liberty. That said, since it pretty much fronts on Penn seems like a natural extension of East Liberty.

The Club One location is absolutely in East Liberty though.

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The Village of Shadyside / East Liberty Station is a fairly new project with newer infrastructure. The plaza opened in 86/87 and was what appeared to be a brown field. I am not sure what was there prior to though. The plaza should develop the lot closer to penn avenue with ground floor retail and apartments above. A street wall can be added while keeping the plaza intact.
I presume you're talking about the shopping center, which confusingly is now called "The Village of Eastside" while the gated community across the street is called "The Village of Shadyside."

The shopping center could be redeveloped in stages. It used two historic buildings when constructed anyway - the former Post Office (now Trader Joe's) and that three-story building at the corner of Penn Avenue and East Liberty Boulevard. Both can easily be incorporated into a new plan. The buildings in the back of the shopping center are disposable junk, and can be taken out eventually.

The first thing I would do would be to redevelop the front end of the shopping center - starting with getting rid of the McDonald's, replacing it with a new midrise building. After that build something of similar scale on the opposite side. Then you could redevelop the back side of the development. You'd probably need a parking garage or two somewhere, and closer to the busway seems like a good spot. Alternatively, you could mix in some more townhouses as well back there - I'm sure they'd sell well.
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The first thing I would do would be to redevelop the front end of the shopping center - starting with getting rid of the McDonald's, replacing it with a new midrise building. After that build something of similar scale on the opposite side. Then you could redevelop the back side of the development. You'd probably need a parking garage or two somewhere, and closer to the busway seems like a good spot. Alternatively, you could mix in some more townhouses as well back there - I'm sure they'd sell well.
This may prove to be the most difficult part of the plan. McDonald's owns a LOT of its real estate and rents it out to franchisees. If that's a corporate-owned building, it's not going anywhere.
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Old Today, 08:29 AM
 
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This may prove to be the most difficult part of the plan. McDonald's owns a LOT of its real estate and rents it out to franchisees. If that's a corporate-owned building, it's not going anywhere.
It doesn't appear to be a separate lot, so hopefully that's not the case. The main issue facing redevelopment is that the plaza appears to have high occupancy and likely little reason to redevelop.
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It doesn't appear to be a separate lot, so hopefully that's not the case. The main issue facing redevelopment is that the plaza appears to have high occupancy and likely little reason to redevelop.
Exactly what I was thinking. The McDonald's was revamped a few months ago. We can leave well enough alone by developing the section of the lot that faces Penn Avenue. If a parking structure is added it should include apartments. The additional height from the garage would provide excellent views.
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