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Old 08-21-2019, 08:32 PM
 
Location: McKeesport
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Looking at a property in Kittanning Borough. According to Armstrong County, the total millage for the borough is .10545. This is to be multiplied by the assessed value of the property to determine the tax amount. The building I am interested in is only assessed at $30,000, and yet the total taxes for the year are about $3200. Does this sound absolutely insane to anyone else? No wonder half the town is empty.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Looking at a property in Kittanning Borough. According to Armstrong County, the total millage for the borough is .10545. This is to be multiplied by the assessed value of the property to determine the tax amount. The building I am interested in is only assessed at $30,000, and yet the total taxes for the year are about $3200. Does this sound absolutely insane to anyone else? No wonder half the town is empty.
The total mill rate does seem kinda ridiculous, since it's effectively over a 10% property tax rate on the property. However, a lot of the outlying counties have not had a reassessment in decades. Are you sure that the property is actually assessed at $30,000 now, or is that an entrapment/market value.

Also, if you claim the homestead exemption on the property, you will reduce your taxes considerably.

Edit: I found this document. It's from 2010, but shows at that time the county had not reassessed since 1997. That's nothing compared to Butler (which still hasn't updated its 1969 reassessment) but if 1997 values are still on the books, the house will not be assessed at anywhere near a market value of $30,000.
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Old 08-22-2019, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Ben Avon/Kilbuck
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Yeah $3200 might not be crazy at all. What is the home worth? There are 2 ways a county can increase property taxes basically, either reassess at a higher value or increase the rates. When a county does not do reassessments regular (I assume to save the $ to do the work of reviewing each property) they just increase the tax rate.


I have no idea the value of the property but if they have been using assessed values from over 20 years ago I would expect high rates.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:18 AM
 
Location: McKeesport
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I called the county and asked what the house was assessed at. They told me it was assessed at 30k, and taxes were $3200 per year. I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. What happens when I buy the house for 60k and my taxes go to $6400 a year, or is that unlikely to happen?
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Brookline
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I called the county and asked what the house was assessed at. They told me it was assessed at 30k, and taxes were $3200 per year. I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. What happens when I buy the house for 60k and my taxes go to $6400 a year, or is that unlikely to happen?
My parents live out in that area and their taxes are higher than mine in the city. I guess its the price you pay when there arent enough people to share the burden, not sure though exactly what the reason.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Ben Avon/Kilbuck
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I dont deal with property there but usually when a county hasn't done a reassessment in forever they won't reassess after you buy to the current market but I couldn't promise. I looked at a home in the county, it was assessed at about $20k in 2016, that home then sold for $50k in 2017. 2017 to the current year the assessment and taxes have not changed which are about $2300. I will say I never realized armstrong taxes were so much though and so odd. I just looked at a few more and found a home sold for $150k and another for $300k which both showed assessments of $60k. To me this makes the point of needed regular assessments.
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Old Yesterday, 06:09 PM
 
Location: McKeesport
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Thanks for the replies! I spoke to some more people, and I was informed that the property taxes in Kittanning are based on the value of the property being double the assessed value. Since the value of the house is about $60,000, perhaps it makes more sense at $3200 per year in taxes, but that still seems quite high. My house in McKeesport, for comparison, is assessed at $54,000 and taxes are about $1400 per year.
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Old Today, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Lawrenceville, Pittsburgh
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The common level ratio in Armstrong county for 2019 is 2.42. So if, for some reason, the property was reassessed at purchase price, one would divide the purchase price by 2.42 to come up with the final assessment.

https://www.revenue.pa.gov/GeneralTa...or_current.pdf
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Old Today, 10:16 AM
 
Location: McKeesport
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The common level ratio in Armstrong county for 2019 is 2.42. So if, for some reason, the property was reassessed at purchase price, one would divide the purchase price by 2.42 to come up with the final assessment.

https://www.revenue.pa.gov/GeneralTa...or_current.pdf
Great info, thanks! Looks like there is hope for the assessment coming down a little, then. BTW, it's a Federal Era mansion, probably built about 1820. Wish me luck.
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Old Today, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Great info, thanks! Looks like there is hope for the assessment coming down a little, then. BTW, it's a Federal Era mansion, probably built about 1820. Wish me luck.

It's older than knob and tube wiring, so I'm sure you'll have no trouble.
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