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Old 08-29-2019, 08:15 AM
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For fellow cyclists just be careful out there. I think it has been a pretty good year for cyclists, but this is sad as the man died. Such a shame.

https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-storie...ship/980436220
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Old 08-29-2019, 08:22 AM
 
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oh man....very sad. this is terrible. i can only imagine that the second van must have run over him.

i see from what reporter Lori Houy posted in that short video that the southbound direction has no shoulder, not even some white line. if the northbound is the same, that would seem like a very dangerous area to be using a bike. i am not familiar with Freeport Road for bike use.

i am holding back my personal feelings about the circumstances of this, to not use this man's death as an opportunity to vent.
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Old 08-29-2019, 08:29 AM
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i am holding back my personal feelings about the circumstances of this, to not use this man's death as an opportunity to vent.
Yeah, someone died and we don't know much about this. As a cyclist, you have NO choice but to take the entire lane on that stretch. No where else to go. It was before sunrise, but probably getting lighter.

It was hard to see that video for me. Just his belongings laying there. Very sad for a lot of people I am sure.
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Old 08-29-2019, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Etna, PA
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I just read the story on the P-G website and was hoping it wasn't you, glad that you're still with us
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Old 08-29-2019, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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I just read the story on the P-G website and was hoping it wasn't you, glad that you're still with us
I was thinking the same thing.

Naturally the comments on Facebook are as disappointing as ever. "Derp! PEDUTO SHOULD HAVE PUT IN A BIKE LANE FERRR HIMM!!!"; "DERP! BIKES DON'T BELONG ON DA ROADS!!!"; "DERRRRPPPP!!!"
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Old 08-29-2019, 08:49 AM
 
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Very sad. Cycling is so dangerous, even if every driver on the road respected a cyclist. This may just be a pure accident with no real fault (sun in eyes of driver etc). But I've also read about cyclists disrespecting rules and riding in the driving lanes, not paying attention etc etc. Regardless this sucks.
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Old 08-29-2019, 09:38 AM
 
Location: East End, Pittsburgh
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Very sad. Cycling is so dangerous, even if every driver on the road respected a cyclist. This may just be a pure accident with no real fault (sun in eyes of driver etc). But I've also read about cyclists disrespecting rules and riding in the driving lanes, not paying attention etc etc. Regardless this sucks.
Driving culture victim blaming. What's a driving lane?
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Old 08-29-2019, 09:59 AM
 
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It just feels to me like the worst body blow when this happens. I'm so sorry for this man and his loved ones. I met a guy a couple weeks ago who was biking from Milwaukee to DC (along the GAP from Pittsburgh), and he said the most discourteous drivers he encountered were in Ohio. He was yelled at to get the "BLEEP off the road", and one driver even threw a full bottle of water at him. WTH?!?


We are lucky to have orgs like Bike PGH. The work to raise awareness must continue, but the constant self-inflicted distraction of most drivers is the biggest problem to overcome, whether the victim is a pedestrian, a cyclist, or . . . all the houses that motorists seem to be running into almost daily.
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Old 08-29-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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We are lucky to have orgs like Bike PGH. The work to raise awareness must continue, but the constant self-inflicted distraction of most drivers is the biggest problem to overcome, whether the victim is a pedestrian, a cyclist, or . . . all the houses that motorists seem to be running into almost daily.

*silent applause*

and not to mention the speed with which people pilot their large vehicles.
we each may not realize it, but we do develop our own personal philosophies, shaped by life experiences and other factors....

two points of my own philosophy:
large personal vehicles = a greater feeling of comfort, and with that, a greater feeling of ownership of the road

these luxuries make us more vain, less compassionate, more ego-centered, uglier. (in a nutshell, and with generalizations...of course not everything is cut and dry).

so, just slow the **** down, and don't drive in a way where you have not processed what is in your field of vision 2-3 seconds ahead of you.
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Old 08-29-2019, 10:56 AM
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Driving culture victim blaming. What's a driving lane?
I hesitated to even post this on here because of cold people and rants. Someone died this morning. We don't know what happened. The sun was not up yet, but it probably wasn't all that dark. A tough time to ride and a very lousy location. That is about it.

Try and have a little class. This man is dead and we really don't know much. Was the driver texting? Distracted? No idea. Who to blame? No idea.

SCR, don't worry about the facebook crap your read. There are heartless people out there, but many are very nice. Just Internet crap.

Guess we will find out more at some point. Stay classy if possible.
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