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05-09-2008, 04:55 PM
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I can't disagree with seeker. This area needs a shot in the arm with regards to employers. There are a lot of naysayers on this board that feel Pittsburgh is in a death spiral, and compared to the population back in the 60's they may be right. But we have a world class airport, 3 Major league sports franchises, decent infrastructure, OK average weather and NO OCEAN. But this area is VERY AFFORDABLE, I can find you a house for 50K in a safe area, 35K if you buy extra locks for the doors.
We just need to get rid of the pull-the-lever Democrats and the you-owe-me-a-living city and county workers. Maybe then this area will come back.
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05-09-2008, 04:55 PM
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Also, something a bit funny I think. People often say that Pittsburgh is moving up because an increase in "high-tech jobs", but the computer industry was created over 30 years ago in the west. High-tech is no longer the growth industry it was during its development, what is hot now? Alternative energy companies etc. I see nothing of this coming out of the Pittsburgh area of even the east in general. Maybe in 30 years Pittsburgh will see some of this growth.
Anyhow, this is why Pittsburgh's lack of warehouse/industry space is a bit of a problem. Sorta hard to build prototypes in an office space.
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05-09-2008, 05:05 PM
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But we have a world class airport, 3 Major league sports franchises, decent infrastructure,
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A world class airport that doesn't have international flights (oh wait but it goes to Canada!). Major league sports? How does that benefit me? I could care less. Decent infrastructure? Sure for call centers, but no real industry.
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Maybe then this area will come back.
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The area will not come back until entrepreneurism comes back. The area use to be home to some really great business men and a lot of industry was created out of the period, in fact most of the big businesses in the area are from that period.
Now if you try to be an entrepreneur in Pittsburgh you pretty much get mocked. The locals have no interest in business, tell them an idea and they just look at you weird. The educated folks in the area are mostly associated with the universities, and making money in academia is almost considered an evil.
Anyhow, the area simply does not embrace the sort of eye-wide entrepreneurism that others do.
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05-09-2008, 05:37 PM
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A world class airport that doesn't have international flights (oh wait but it goes to Canada!). Major league sports? How does that benefit me? I could care less. Decent infrastructure? Sure for call centers, but no real industry.
Well, for the record, it's I couldn't care less.
The area will not come back until entrepreneurism comes back. The area use to be home to some really great business men and a lot of industry was created out of the period, in fact most of the big businesses in the area are from that period.
I believe I made that point when I said all the Democrats need to die.
. The educated folks in the area are mostly associated with the universities, and making money in academia is almost considered an evil.
Let's see, my wife with a Carnegie Mellon MBA is in health care; my friend with a Carnegie Mellon MBA is in construction; my slacker PHD buddy sells washing machines, So what's your point?
Anyhow, the area simply does not embrace the sort of eye-wide entrepreneurism that others do.
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You seem to really have a bug up your butt about Pittsburgh. I'm sorry you had such a rotten time here. Perhaps you should just move on.
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05-09-2008, 06:42 PM
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Most of the educated folks in the area have little interesting in making money and this does effect the dynamic of the area.
And when I say educated folks I mean people educated in fields that are actually useful.
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05-09-2008, 08:47 PM
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Alternative energy companies etc. I see nothing of this coming out of the Pittsburgh area of even the east in general.
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There is actually quite a bit of alternative-energy/green technology coming out of CMU, Pitt, local companies, and so on.
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05-09-2008, 08:49 PM
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Anyhow, the area simply does not embrace the sort of eye-wide entrepreneurism that others do.
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Actually, there have been quite a few new companies started in the region recently.
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05-09-2008, 09:05 PM
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Loving the rustbelt :)
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Actually, there have been quite a few new companies started in the region recently.
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Yeah, I thought biotech was a newer industry and the Cleveland/Akron/Youngstown/Pittsburgh region has really been growing in that field.
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05-09-2008, 09:31 PM
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Yeah, I thought biotech was a newer industry and the Cleveland/Akron/Youngstown/Pittsburgh region has really been growing in that field.
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Indeed. Other big entrepreneurial sectors in the region include robotics and advanced materials.
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05-09-2008, 10:26 PM
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Actually, there have been quite a few new companies started in the region recently.
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This does not contradict what I said in anyway.
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Other big entrepreneurial sectors in the region include robotics and advanced materials.
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I hear about robotics on this forum often and I usually ignore it because as far as I know its not true, but seriously what robotics companies are in the area? The area around MIT has become a big area for robotics, unless I really missed something the same can't be said about Pittsburgh. To me the sort of ideas around CMU don't lend themselves to industry like the ideas at MIT (in some sense the two schools represent two different views in AI, robotics etc). So what sort of robotics companies are in the area? What are the biggest companies?
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