Magee Hospital performs ABORTION (Pittsburgh, California: crime, live, legally)

[john7104]

Originally Posted by worthk34

Seeing how it is legal- if you want go and try to upturn Roe v Wade- there should be no controversy having an abortion at a hospital (would you rather it being done in seedy back alley?) Not everyone shares your view that this is murder.

While I think abortion is morally wrong, it's a necessity in society today. The only problem is that not enough people get them. The perfect alternative would be to sterilize everyone collecting government subsidies. If you can't take care of yourself, then you don't deserve the responsibilities of a child.

[john7104]

Originally Posted by worthk34

Seeing how it is legal- if you want go and try to upturn Roe v Wade- there should be no controversy having an abortion at a hospital (would you rather it being done in seedy back alley?) Not everyone shares your view that this is murder.

And not everyone shares yours that it isn't

[zip95]

Originally Posted by subdivisions

I think that this topic is not appropriate for this board and is likely to lead to an enormous flame war.

While I agree that this topic is inappropriate for the board, I also think that abortion is a media-driven issue. "Most" people are only mildly concerned, with this 1970's debate.... Don't get me wrong, I believe that everyone has an opinion, but I bet those opinions take a back seat to opinions about the Steelers Defense.

There will always be the extremists on both sides, but I would bet the vast majority of people believe something along the lines of:

Is abortion wrong: well... ya know, its like, yea... sorta... i mean, people probably shouldn't have abortions.....We should go to a spread offense.

Should abortions be illegal: well... ya know, its like, no... probably not... i mean, you shouldn't really tell people what to do.... I hate the spread offense.

[londonbarcelona]

Originally Posted by john7104

So what if it does? Have you ever thought that people might like to engage in debate rather than talk about "how great" Pittsburgh is for 100th time, is "Squirrel Hill safe?" for the 200th time, is "Pittsburgh gay friendly?" for the 20th time or my favorite "which diverse community is best for my mixed race family?".

For crying out loud people - this forum is like the movie Ground Hogs Day - it's the same thing over and over and over and over again. Remove the sticks from your asses, ditch the left winged moderator, and have some freaking fun. Debate is healthy. This isn't Russia or China (although some of you left winged fanatics wish it were). Speak your mind! - THIS IS WHAT THESE FORUMS SHOULD BE USED FOR.

I agree with John. This forum is by far the most limited public forum I have ever participated in. It is typically one sided and guided by a few favored regulars. There is no such thing as opinion or debate on this forum. Only positive comments about Pittsburgh are allowed, all others will either be deleted, orphaned or the poster with be banned because the favored regulars will relentlessly complain on the threads and to the mods until said person is gone. Therefore it has been my choice to limit my participation.

To me, the attitude of this forum is a poor representation of the Pittsburgh population. Or, perhaps it does represent the general "city" population...

I have resisted from commenting on most subjects "discussed" on this forum because I live in the suburbs "of PITTSBURGH." Consequently, my opinions therefore hold no relevance to the subject matter at hand because apparently, unless you are living within the city proper you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Suburban members opinions and experience are dismissed as here-say and the suburbanites are made a mockery of by the "official" members who are exclusively representatives of either the gay community or residents ONLY of the city at large. However, there are a few former Pittsburgh residents allow to express themselves, so long as they are either speaking in nostalgic terms or expressing a desire to return. Those who have moved on, are happy they have done so and verbally express that opinion, need not reply again.

As far as the abortion thing goes. It is quite common for abortions to be preformed at a hospital. When problems arise with a difficult pregnancy, unfortunately there is no alternative but termination of the said pregnancy. The OP did not state whether the abortion was preformed as an elective procedure or as an last resort emergency. As Juliempdx has stated prior, "Every hospital in America performs abortions with the exception of the few Catholic institutions that are still around. However a large amount of those abortions are performed because of fetal demise or miscarriage. It is a necessary surgical procedure when it comes to those circumstances." She is absolutely correct. Whether you personally approve of it or not, it is a common occurrence in most hospitals.

Since the OP mentioned a hospital that is located in Pittsburgh, I find the subject matter to be perfectly relevant for discussion on this board. Or shall we only discuss the Steelers, city neighborhoods and architecture for the umpteenth time?

[Pghtebbie]

Magee also performs IVF procedures and sterilizations (tying tubes). Is this okay with with everyone?

It is a hospital for women. To service women in Pittsburgh. If women in Pittsburgh didn't want abortions, of any kind, they wouldn't do them. Because hospitals are a BUSINESS.

If Magee didn't perform them, someone else would. Legal or not.

[juliempdx]

Maybe this will help clarify for the original OP. I am in health care and work in surgery where these procedures are performed. All staff at every hospital I have ever worked at are given the option of whether or not they want to be involved in an abortion. If not they find other staff who are willing to do it. Most people don't realize that when it comes to getting an abortion in a hospital 99% of the time it is because of complications with a pregnancy which is very unfortunate for those people and they need health care workers to be there for them and support them during this very difficult time in their life. I never had this attitude before but attended a lecture given by a OBGYN surgeon and left with a more well rounded perspective on the subject matter.

Do I agree with abortion to terminate pregnancy, not really but I do believe everyone has the right to make that choice for themselves, which means by law hospitals have to provide this medical service.

[Katiana]

I already repped john7104 for his post. His concerns are a recurring theme on this forum. londonbarcelona is correct in her assessment.

In regards to abortion, when I was a student nurse doing my ob rotation in 1969, Magee was performing abortions. Once one of our students asked a doctor how many of those abortions were illegal, and he said "most of them" (referring to the laws of Pennsylvania at the time). This, of course, was before Roe v Wade, things have been loosened up since then. In point of fact, many abortions are for the purpose of terminating an unwanted pregnancy.

[Beretta]

Temporarily closed pending Pittsburgh Moderator review. Thanks.

[Yac]

I'm re opening the thread, but please refrain from personal trips everyone. I understand this is an emotional issue, but at least try to be calm.
Also the way this is going I'm almost certain the thread will be moved to P&oC, discussing abortion in general is not a Pittsburgh specific topic.
Yac.

[aveojohn]

I don't believe abortion should be used as birth control,which is what a lot of woman do.There are plenty of ways to prevent pregnancy today.