Why is Pittsburgh so cheap? (Carnegie, McKees Rocks: home, public schools, subdivision)

[Drover]

Originally Posted by pittsteelerfan

200k in Morningside! lol lol lol Please, you're killing me!

Yes, that's so incredibly amusing I guess.

Originally Posted by pittsteelerfan

Hey, if it's such a great deal there in Morningside, why don't you leave Chicago and go buy a house there?

Because I like where I live, besides which my preference is irrelevant to the demand you made that someone explain to you how Pittsburgh city living is convenient.

Originally Posted by pittsteelerfan

You could get up everday and go to the Strip District for your produce, then hurry back for quick tour of the zoo, then run to an art gallery, talk a quick walk in the park, then off to a musuem. lol

I could. Whereas I couldn't if I lived somewhere further away from these amenities than Morningside.

Originally Posted by pittsteelerfan

I didn't ask "how city living" was or is, in Pittsburgh, I grew up there, I know how it is.

Yes, you keep saying you're from there. That point has been made perfectly clear. So let us stipulate that point now and forever so you don't have to keep stating it over and over and over and over and over again.

What you did ask, however, is for an explanation of how living in the city is convenient. (Please do try to keep up with your own posts.) I'm trying to explain how it's convenient using -- brace yourself for this unique thinking exercise -- a point of view and criteria other than your own.

Originally Posted by pittsteelerfan

My beef is with Morningside, but YOU like to twist everything around and start comparing commutes between there and Cranberry (which I believe is located in a different county). What YOU consider to be a good quality city neighborhood is alot different than mine.

And others are different from yours, a point you seem determined to miss.

Originally Posted by pittsteelerfan

How would Morningside rank in the city of Chicago in terms of walkability?

No better or worse than Mount Greenwood, Clearing, Garfield Ride, Norwood Park, Oriole Park, Dunning, Forest Glen, Sauganash, Roseland, Pill Hill, Hegewisch, and several others I can name if I had all day. But despite your obsession with walkability, it isn't the sole nor even an objective criterion for determining convenience.

Originally Posted by pittsteelerfan

And by the way, when 'someone' is giving 'their' point of view, it will ALWAYS be what 'they' "prefer" or "depise".

But it won't always be the only valid point of view. Something that is apparently lost on you.

As of this post, I've lost interest in chasing down and reining in your various irrelevancies only to have you cast more of them with each subsequent post.

[pittsteelerfan]

Originally Posted by Drover

Yes, that's so incredibly amusing I guess.

Because I like where I live, besides which my preference is irrelevant to the demand you made that someone explain to you how Pittsburgh city living is convenient.

I could. Whereas I couldn't if I lived somewhere further away from these amenities than Morningside.


Yes, you keep saying you're from there. That point has been made perfectly clear. So let us stipulate that point now and forever so you don't have to keep stating it over and over and over and over and over again.

What you did ask, however, is for an explanation of how living in the city is convenient. (Please do try to keep up with your own posts.) I'm trying to explain how it's convenient using -- brace yourself for this unique thinking exercise -- a point of view and criteria other than your own.

And others are different from yours, a point you seem determined to miss.


No better or worse than Mount Greenwood, Clearing, Garfield Ride, Norwood Park, Oriole Park, Dunning, Forest Glen, Sauganash, Roseland, Pill Hill, Hegewisch, and several others I can name if I had all day. But despite your obsession with walkability, it isn't the sole nor even an objective criterion for determining convenience.


But it won't always be the only valid point of view. Something that is apparently lost on you.

As of this post, I've lost interest in chasing down and reining in your various irrelevancies only to have you cast more of them with each subsequent post.

Are you even actually from Pittsburgh? I hope I didn't debate a transplant all night.

And YES, WALKABILTY to me is WHAT "city living" is ALL about! That's why America is SO fat, so MANY people drive everywhere. Alot of Chicagoan's hate to walk, not saying all, but alot of them would die walking the hills of Pittsburgh! lol A car to me is a necessary evil, it's nice to have, but don't like using them on a daily basis if possible.

Bloomfield, now THAT'S a walkable nabe (ranks 97 on the walkable scale outta of 100)! And there are some nice homes in Friendship, and Liberty Ave is right at you finger tips! And Bloomfield DEFINITELY has character too!

Some of those Chicago neighborhoods you listed above, are NOT an accurate comparision of how Moringside is in terms of conveinence. I know better, but alot of these Pittsburgh'ers who read your post won't. Especially, Sauganash. You are now distorting things just for the sake of trying to be right (let this be noted).

[pittsteelerfan]

Originally Posted by Drover

Yes, that's so incredibly amusing I guess.

Because I like where I live, besides which my preference is irrelevant to the demand you made that someone explain to you how Pittsburgh city living is convenient.

I could. Whereas I couldn't if I lived somewhere further away from these amenities than Morningside.


Yes, you keep saying you're from there. That point has been made perfectly clear. So let us stipulate that point now and forever so you don't have to keep stating it over and over and over and over and over again.

What you did ask, however, is for an explanation of how living in the city is convenient. (Please do try to keep up with your own posts.) I'm trying to explain how it's convenient using -- brace yourself for this unique thinking exercise -- a point of view and criteria other than your own.

And others are different from yours, a point you seem determined to miss.


No better or worse than Mount Greenwood, Clearing, Garfield Ride, Norwood Park, Oriole Park, Dunning, Forest Glen, Sauganash, Roseland, Pill Hill, Hegewisch, and several others I can name if I had all day. But despite your obsession with walkability, it isn't the sole nor even an objective criterion for determining convenience.


But it won't always be the only valid point of view. Something that is apparently lost on you.

As of this post, I've lost interest in chasing down and reining in your various irrelevancies only to have you cast more of them with each subsequent post.

P.S. My so-called "obsession with walkability" will someday be a NATIONAL OBSESSION, when gas prices climb up and over 4 bucs a gallon and stay there permenately. All of the sudden, those short drives to the grocery stores, bakery's, coffee shops, etc., will be ALOT more of an inconvenience than you think right now. Atleast they will be to your pocketbook!

I guess you could call me a 'visionery'! lol What you think is "lost on me" now, will be lost on the people who HAVE to drive everywhere, but can't afford it cause of the high gas prices. If you think they won't return, you're only kidding yourself. Funny thing though, the attention span of Americans. We forget that, our now 20 or so dollar 'fill ups', were 50 dollar ones less than a year ago.

[Yac]

Calm down everybody and focus on the topic, please.
Yac.

[Morningsider]

Originally Posted by pittsteelerfan

How many times a year are you really going to the zoo? Museums and Art galleries? I think you have the Morningside crowd mixed up with the Shadyside one! .

According to a survey of 200 new resident households in Morningside, most homebuyers were either new to Pittsburgh, or had rented in another East End neighborhood. The survey noted that most respondents shopped in Shadyside and East Liberty, and also looked at homes in Point Breeze, Regent Square, and Highland Park. The three most popular reasons for buying in Morningside were affordability, safety, and proximity to amenities... in that order.

The neighborhood is currently undergoing a streetscape program with new trees and building facades and is reviewing bids to renovate the Morningside School into housing units. Care to guess what the price-point is for those is likely to be?

Neighborhood change is not an overnight thing, so don't be so quick to discount what is happening in Morningside and other Pittsburgh neighborhoods. Remember, just ten years ago you could buy a larger house in the city section of Regent Square for under $90,000.

[onwardandupward]

Originally Posted by pittsteelerfan

I like living in cities that are multi-cutured with an international feel to them. That's why I said in different post that Philly just felt like a big Pittsburgh to me, it didn't have that 'world class city' feel to it.

I lived in D.C., in studio apartment for $1200/month that would have cost $500/month here in Pittsburgh. The company I worked for had offices in both cities, and it paid exactly the same salary for the same position whether it was in D.C. or Pittsburgh. I bought a house here in Pittsburgh for about 1/4 what it would have cost in D.C.

Living in Pittsburgh allows me the financial freedom to travel on a regular basis to London and L.A. to visit friends, Chicago to visit family, Rome to see the sights. I am able to live much more of an international lifestyle by living here than in D.C., saddled by huge housing expenses.

I grew up in Pittsburgh, but have lived elsewhere and traveled extensively. I decided Pittsburgh is a lovely, livable city. If Pittsburgh's not for you - fine, but don't negate others' opinions about the city. Lots of well-educated people have made well-reasoned decisions to live HERE.

[pittsteelerfan]

Originally Posted by onwardandupward

I lived in D.C., in studio apartment for $1200/month that would have cost $500/month here in Pittsburgh. The company I worked for had offices in both cities, and it paid exactly the same salary for the same position whether it was in D.C. or Pittsburgh. I bought a house here in Pittsburgh for about 1/4 what it would have cost in D.C.

Living in Pittsburgh allows me the financial freedom to travel on a regular basis to London and L.A. to visit friends, Chicago to visit family, Rome to see the sights. I am able to live much more of an international lifestyle by living here than in D.C., saddled by huge housing expenses.

I grew up in Pittsburgh, but have lived elsewhere and traveled extensively. I decided Pittsburgh is a lovely, livable city. If Pittsburgh's not for you - fine, but don't negate others' opinions about the city. Lots of well-educated people have made well-reasoned decisions to live HERE.

If you love, you love it. You couldn't give me house to live there. Nothing against Pittburgh, but I personally could never live there, EVER again. That's just me though (unless the population keeps dropping). And I ain't educated by the way.

[Greg Xix]

Thank you Administrator Yac.

I guess this thread got carried away as I didnt want to get into demographics, literacy, intelligence or have others get into a pi**ing match about who the biggest Pittsburgh 'expert' is. As now a few people are splitting hairs.

At least people familiar with the area seem to like it there enough to want to be the "experts" on Pittsburgh. Doubt I would get much of that from most of Detroit or or to a certain degree Cleveland.

I just wanted to know why Pittsburgh is so "Affordable". People have implied that it is still strongly a blue collar town. If a company like Microsoft( or one of equal clout) decided that they wanted to open a big operational presence there, then Real Estate prices would triple in 2 years.

[oktaren]

Originally Posted by Awesomo.2000

OK, good for you.

no problem, have a nice day in ****tsburgh.

[Awesomo.2000]

Originally Posted by oktaren

no problem, have a nice day in ****tsburgh.

I will! I plan on going to the Carnegies tomorrow

I hope you have a great weekend too.