Pittsuburgh racist to who? (Pittsburgh, Brentwood: suburbs, farm, metro)

[pittsteelerfan]

Originally Posted by CortlandGirl79

Warren is halfway between Cleveland and Pittsburgh. I understand now that you are talking about the city itself, but i do consider my area part of both the Cleveland and Pittsburgh regions. They are both very similar, but Cleveland has a lot more diversity. Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both very segregated as is Youngstown/Warren.

I feel like i can comment on the people of Pittsburgh just like Dug can. He lives just across the border from me in Pa. I believe both of us even live in the same metro. Youngstown, Cleveland and Pittsburgh all developed similarly at around the same time frame, give or take 50 years. All three areas were industrial boom towns with the same types of ethnic groups, customs, cultures, and attitudes. You'll find the same mentality throughout "our" region.

I have to disagree. Someone who grew up in the city of Pittsburgh, as opposed to Warren, will be different. It might not be big differences, but there will be some. Especially when it comes to points of views on certain subjects. The people who grow up in the Pittsburgh suburbs are going to be, and think different, than some kid who grew up loafing on the street corners of the Northside.

[john_starks]

Originally Posted by creepsinc

Yup, and being the only white person somewhere (like maybe a bar in South Asia somewhere) provokes the same type of reaction. It's something I call human nature.

yup, i don't know if i'm gonna get hanged with a burning cross though?

maybe get killed with the chinese water torture or a bad curry dish

[ainulinale]

Originally Posted by chicknpotpie

And he definitely has a "rural" accent? Is pittsburgh a big farm city like Columbus? He sounds kinda redneckish...

This is one of the most offensive things I've read on City-Data.

I just got back from a trip to the Eastern part of the state and Baltimore, and I can honestly say that I am far more convinced than ever that Pittsburgh is part of the East Coast. There is however, an undeniable Appalachian influence; the further south of the city you go, the more this becomes apparent.
Secondly, WTF is a "rural" accent? As far as I'm concerned the major groups of accents are: East Coast (including Boston, NYC, Phila., etc.), Northern (Chicago, Cleveland, California, etc.), Midland (Indianapolis, St. Louis, etc.), Southern Highland (West Virginia, Kentucky, etc.), Coastal Southern (Georgia, Alabama, etc.). The Pittsburgh accent doesn't fit very well into either of these categories. There is a bit of a Southern Highland twang, but also, I've had people mistake my mother's accent for that of Boston's. Additionally, thick accents are almost exclusive to the uneducated.
Thirdly. What is wrong with farms? As if they somehow equate to "rednickish" and therefore racism. I'm not a farmer and I don't know any farmers, but I'm pretty sure they're helping to feed this nation, and should be given a little respect. Such generalizations carry the same attitude as racism--stereotyping and ignorance.

[CortlandGirl79]

Originally Posted by pittsteelerfan

I have to disagree. Someone who grew up in the city of Pittsburgh, as opposed to Warren, will be different. It might not be big differences, but there will be some. Especially when it comes to points of views on certain subjects. The people who grow up in the Pittsburgh suburbs are going to be, and think different, than some kid who grew up loafing on the street corners of the Northside.

People are different everywhere. I mentioned that i now realize that he was talking about the city of Pittsburgh itself, but what i'm saying is the region as a whole is similar.

There will be "some" differences between neighborhoods in Pittsburgh itself. A kid who grew up in a mostly white upper-class area of the city is going to have a different experience than someone who grew up in some kind of ethnic enclave or ghetto area. I think you are splitting hairs.

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by ainulinale

This is one of the most offensive things I've read on City-Data.

I just got back from a trip to the Eastern part of the state and Baltimore, and I can honestly say that I am far more convinced than ever that Pittsburgh is part of the East Coast. There is however, an undeniable Appalachian influence; the further south of the city you go, the more this becomes apparent.
Secondly, WTF is a "rural" accent? As far as I'm concerned the major groups of accents are: East Coast (including Boston, NYC, Phila., etc.), Northern (Chicago, Cleveland, California, etc.), Midland (Indianapolis, St. Louis, etc.), Southern Highland (West Virginia, Kentucky, etc.), Coastal Southern (Georgia, Alabama, etc.). The Pittsburgh accent doesn't fit very well into either of these categories. There is a bit of a Southern Highland twang, but also, I've had people mistake my mother's accent for that of Boston's. Additionally, thick accents are almost exclusive to the uneducated.
Thirdly. What is wrong with farms? As if they somehow equate to "rednickish" and therefore racism. I'm not a farmer and I don't know any farmers, but I'm pretty sure they're helping to feed this nation, and should be given a little respect. Such generalizations carry the same attitude as racism--stereotyping and ignorance.

Apparently you didn't get the memo. We had to keep one racial stereotype laying around, and of course, it's whitey.


One day, The Redneck Manifesto by Jim Goad will be required high school reading. It goes into the subject pretty well. Wait, you're not saying "redneck"= racist are you? Most so-called "rednecks" spend more time mingling with black people than the "upper classes" do.

[john_starks]

personally i think pitt is cool based on its overall character. never been there..

and what i was tryong to point out is that racism is everywhere..in every big city...LA the most

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by john_starks

personally i think pitt is cool based on its overall character. never been there..

and what i was tryong to point out is that racism is everywhere..in every big city...LA the most

Yep. Everywhere and practiced by all kinds of people. It's not as prevalent as the media would have you believe, though, if only because nothing is.

[pittsteelerfan]

Originally Posted by ainulinale

This is one of the most offensive things I've read on City-Data.

I just got back from a trip to the Eastern part of the state and Baltimore, and I can honestly say that I am far more convinced than ever that Pittsburgh is part of the East Coast. There is however, an undeniable Appalachian influence; the further south of the city you go, the more this becomes apparent.
Secondly, WTF is a "rural" accent? As far as I'm concerned the major groups of accents are: East Coast (including Boston, NYC, Phila., etc.), Northern (Chicago, Cleveland, California, etc.), Midland (Indianapolis, St. Louis, etc.), Southern Highland (West Virginia, Kentucky, etc.), Coastal Southern (Georgia, Alabama, etc.). The Pittsburgh accent doesn't fit very well into either of these categories. There is a bit of a Southern Highland twang, but also, I've had people mistake my mother's accent for that of Boston's. Additionally, thick accents are almost exclusive to the uneducated.
Thirdly. What is wrong with farms? As if they somehow equate to "rednickish" and therefore racism. I'm not a farmer and I don't know any farmers, but I'm pretty sure they're helping to feed this nation, and should be given a little respect. Such generalizations carry the same attitude as racism--stereotyping and ignorance.

A "rural" accent exists EVERYWHERE outside any major city. Drive up to Butler, Pa. and tell me those people sound like they're from the 'city' of Pittsburgh. The same can be said about any direction that you drive out of the city of Pittsburgh. City people always talk different than people who are from rural areas. And I'm talking about more than just the expressions or slang they use, the accents are always different too.

[PeterRabbit]

If something is supposed to be typical of Pittsburgh you don't have a hick accent portraying the part. Also, I don't know anyone who speaks using words like yinz, etc., that are attributed to us. Maybe that's common in the South Hills or wherever lower educated people live. In general I don't think Pittsburghers have accents and we sound like the common people you see and hear on national news. But when I moved to Kansas City some people picked up I was from here from how I talked. I may have asked for too many gumbands.

[pittsteelerfan]

Originally Posted by PeterRabbit

If something is supposed to be typical of Pittsburgh you don't have a hick accent portraying the part. Also, I don't know anyone who speaks using words like yinz, etc., that are attributed to us. Maybe that's common in the South Hills or wherever lower educated people live. In general I don't think Pittsburghers have accents and we sound like the common people you see and hear on national news. But when I moved to Kansas City some people picked up I was from here from how I talked. I may have asked for too many gumbands.

Buddy, all my family says yinz. And we ain't from the South hills either. East end of the city.