Dying Mon River towns (Pittsburgh, Clairton: foreclosures, crime, house)

[tibor75]

Originally Posted by PeterRabbit

We're ignoring the OP's question. Merger seems to be a good idea. Considering the hard times and nothing getting better in these towns, why have 6 chiefs of police/fire depts., mayors, tax collectors, etal.? What would be some of the obstacles that need to be overcome?

Because for these small towns, that is all they have. They have nothing else other than chreshing memories of when their towns were "great"

Some cities just need to die out. There is frankly nothing on the Mon area that is worth saving.

[RedBall]

Originally Posted by Drover

So I guess the premise is, until these places are completely abandoned ghost towns, they still have "much going for them"? Compared to what/where?

lol, What are you trying to prove? That Mon river towns don't have "much going for them?" Semantic arguments are for simpletons, bro.

As a supplement to the article presented, Bazwell's point is simply that communities in these towns have not yet completely disapeared. Families do in fact live in Denora, etc., and carry on their lives. People go to Church, people go to the grocery, people go to school. Communities exist. This is what these areas still have going for them.

You're reading far, far too deeply into a couple of words, apearently as an excuse to argue.

Unclench yourself.

[Drover]

I'm not looking for an argument. I'm looking for someone who can give me an answer to my question and have an actual dialog without lashing out at me for daring to ask.

[zip95]

Originally Posted by PeterRabbit

why have 6 chiefs of police/fire depts., mayors, tax collectors, etal.? What would be some of the obstacles that need to be overcome?

The man obstacle would be getting the 6 mayors and 6 city councils and 6 school boards to agree to eliminate 5/6 of their jobs.

[RedBall]

Originally Posted by Drover

I'm not looking for an argument. I'm looking for someone who can give me an answer to my question and have an actual dialog without lashing out at me for daring to ask.

And again, your question was already answered.

Bazwell's point was that these towns still have some things going for them - namely, the fact that communities do in fact still exist. Good people call mon river towns home, and go to church, go to school, etc. Communities are still surviving. It was merely a point to contrast the linked article, which paints a bleak picture, however true it is.

That's it dude. That's the answer to your question.

Try to comprehend the meaning of the post rather than keying in on a few words. The fact that Bazz used the phrase "have much going for them" obviously, in this context, does not mean that he thinks the future is necessarily bright, as you insinuated in an earlier post, or that these areas are poised for a renaissance, etc. Nobody will argue these points because they are obviously not true.

[Drover]

Which leads us right back to the premise that as long as these places still hang on by a thread, they have "much going for them." I guess it comes down to a semantics argument after all because for me simply existing and doing all the rudimentary things that every other town does is not a sufficient criterion for a community having "much going for it."

[RedBall]

Yes, exactly. As I already stated, this is an argument of semantics. By deriving an interpretation of the phrase "have much going for them" and ignoring context, you have essentially invented an argument where there was none.

What a silly and pointless discussion to argue the criterion which must exist for something to technically "have much going" for it. Hint: It's freaking relative based on frame of reference and perspective!!! It's a subjective statement!!

Regardless of this meaningless argument, the point is that real communities do still exist in these river towns. And with respect to the OP's original question, the problems afoot are much more complicated than will be solved by combining municipalities and pooling resources. If it were only that simple. But, on the bright side, as long as these communities continue surviving, at least they've got that going for them!

[Drover]

Wow, it sure doesn't take much to get you lot worked up, does it?

[RedBall]

Originally Posted by Drover

Wow, it sure doesn't take much to get you lot worked up, does it?

Hah, who's worked up?

[Drover]

... asks the fellow whose prior prior post hyperventilates about "silly" and "pointless" and "meaningless" discussion and "freaking perspective" and uses about 38 exclamation points.