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06-09-2009, 02:58 PM
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Ten best places to live in the US - Upper Saint Clair #10
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06-09-2009, 04:31 PM
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I live near it, its a nice place actually.
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06-09-2009, 06:53 PM
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Way way to suburbia to me. I laugh at how they refer to it as a "town".
They day after I accepted my new career, I drove down here to begin looking for a home. Since the only area I was aware of in Pittsburgh was Oakland, I had asked one of our HR folks about where a good place to look for homes would be near SHV mall. They suggest Upper ST Clair, and Bethel. After a day looking in that area, I drove home very disappointed because there was no way I was going to live that suburban. Thank God I settled in the city.
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06-09-2009, 10:24 PM
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That sort of suburb isn't to my tastes either, but it certainly seems true that Upper St. Clair is an excellent example of its type. Generally, I think it is a good thing that Pittsburgh has residential neighborhoods suitable for a wide range of different preferences.
By the way, the article says it was looking for affordable communities, and they note the median home price in Upper St. Clair was a mere $240,000. Which is fair enough, but the median household income in Upper St. Clair is actually over $100,000 (a household making over $100,000 is basically in the top 15% or so in the United States, and that is also over twice the Allegheny County median). That roughly 2.4 ratio of home prices to household incomes is typical for us, but not so typical in a lot of other large metro areas. In other words, "affordable" by national standards can still count as somewhat pricey by Pittsburgh standards, which I think is the case with Upper St. Clair.
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06-09-2009, 10:42 PM
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By the way, in doing a little background research for the post above, I stumbled across this link:
Creative Class » housing price-to-income ratio - Creative Class
It actually looks at housing prices to wages, as opposed to housing prices to income, on the theory that wages are a more appropriate measure of underlying economic productivity in a region.
Anyway, the article concludes:
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What regions seem to have avoided the bubble? The cream of the crop on the housing-to-wage ratio are Dallas (3.5), Houston (3.2), Pittsburgh (3), and Buffalo (2.8).
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06-10-2009, 08:01 AM
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Funny, but I have no desire to live in three of those four cities.
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