Liberal college town- with a small town feel? Within an hour or so drive from pittsburgh? (Philadelphia: apartments, construction)

[Copanut]

Originally Posted by Brookline_sylvia

...just stay away from Grove City, lol - they're expensive and ultra-conservative. ...and very selective - GCC is for budding conservative intelligentsia, haha.

I can't let that one slide by, unless you are kidding. GCC is very price competitive and usually rated as a great deal for the money. Ultra-conservative, maybe, but especially when it comes to money, THEY HAVE NO DEBT. They don't build anything until it's paid off. Selective, yes it is, very selective. To those that work hard. Average SATs are 1300 plus, most students in the top 10% of high school class, and you better know your minister on a first name basis.

But what makes me a proud graduate of GCC is the fact that they have never accepted a penny from the government. I don't know your age, but you might want to google GCC. They fought the government like crazy over Title IX.

It's not the college it was when I attended, but I'll always support them.

[Clint.]

It's $20,000 a year, which is $6,000 more than a state university, and about the same as Pitt or Penn State for room and board and tuition (I think they're all over priced). It's half the cost of Carnegie Mellon, but at CMU you wouldn't be surrounded by right wing lunatics and would instead be associated with a school that actually produces useful research and development other than political cranks, i.e., knowing your born again flat-earth minister on a first name basis as a pretext for attending university - WTF is that worth?

These constant references to Grove City add nothing to the conversation - she wanted a liberal environment with exposure to a mixture of cultures and religions, and GCC is on the other end of the spectrum. All you're doing is cheerleading for your alma mater. Was fighting Title IX "like crazy" anything to be especially proud of? Maybe if you're of a certain persuasion, but I don't think it's especially relevant here.

[Copanut]

Originally Posted by Brookline_sylvia

- she wanted a liberal environment with exposure to a mixture of cultures and religions, .

Fine, so why did YOU bash Grove City?

[Copanut]

Originally Posted by Brookline_sylvia

Was fighting Title IX "like crazy" anything to be especially proud of?

Yeah, it was and is. It's called getting the government out of our lives.

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by Brookline_sylvia

It's $20,000 a year, which is $6,000 more than a state university, and about the same as Pitt or Penn State for room and board and tuition (I think they're all over priced). It's half the cost of Carnegie Mellon, but at CMU you wouldn't be surrounded by right wing lunatics and would instead be associated with a school that actually produces useful research and development other than political cranks, i.e., knowing your born again flat-earth minister on a first name basis as a pretext for attending university - WTF is that worth?

These constant references to Grove City add nothing to the conversation - she wanted a liberal environment with exposure to a mixture of cultures and religions, and GCC is on the other end of the spectrum. All you're doing is cheerleading for your alma mater. Was fighting Title IX "like crazy" anything to be especially proud of? Maybe if you're of a certain persuasion, but I don't think it's especially relevant here.

Beautiful.

[Bagger]

Originally Posted by Copanut

I can't let that one slide by, unless you are kidding. GCC is very price competitive and usually rated as a great deal for the money. Ultra-conservative, maybe, but especially when it comes to money, THEY HAVE NO DEBT. They don't build anything until it's paid off. Selective, yes it is, very selective. To those that work hard. Average SATs are 1300 plus, most students in the top 10% of high school class, and you better know your minister on a first name basis.

But what makes me a proud graduate of GCC is the fact that they have never accepted a penny from the government. I don't know your age, but you might want to google GCC. They fought the government like crazy over Title IX.

It's not the college it was when I attended, but I'll always support them.

I can't disagree with what you say, I'm an alum also. They aren't expensive compared to other schools and they don't take fed dollars because they didn't wish to conform to Title IX.

But given their political leanings, which I think may be even more to the right from when I attended, I can't support them.

I stopped giving a few years back.

[Wind-Up]

Originally Posted by Copanut

Yeah, it was and is. It's called getting the government out of our lives.

And clutching desperately to the God-given right to discriminate.

[BrianTH]

As an aside, I tend to think private universities pose an interesting line-drawing problem to libertarian-minded people. They are not technically part of our system of government, but within their borders they exercise many of the traditional powers of government, and often in a very authoritarian fashion. This, of course, is a variation on the problem that "company towns" also posed to the libertarian-minded.

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by Wind-Up

And clutching desperately to the God-given right to discriminate.

Women are subservient to men. Don't blame me, I read it in the bible.

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by BrianTH

As an aside, I tend to think private universities pose an interesting line-drawing problem to libertarian-minded people. They are not technically part of our system of government, but within their borders they exercise many of the traditional powers of government, and often in a very authoritarian fashion. This, of course, is a variation on the problem that "company towns" also posed to the libertarian-minded.

Yeah, a true lowercase-l libertarian would never approve of expelling a gay man because he acted in a porno. Most so-called "libertarians" are nothing of the sort, just run of the mill tea-bag conservatrons who give actual libertarianism a bad name. I shudder to think of the "education" being given in a place like GCC, no offense to their alumni of course. It's no better than the "education" given at a far-left place like Reed.