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Old 12-20-2009, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Port Authority announced months ago the route changes. PAT announces on thier website which ones will change (March 14)

Approved Route Maps

The main routes include the North Side "16s," 21A, 28X, 33X, The T Lines, 59A, 61A , 61B, 64A, as well as other smaller routes.

New route added 75 Ellsworth.

Great. The 61A will be one of the first routes to change. I guess if I stay out late on a weekend, I'll have to get a cab back home to East Pittsburgh. (Thank God I plan on moving)
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:24 AM
 
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Unfortunately for raubre, I suspect they will see some of their highest immediate returns from the whole TDP by changing the 61A/B, so I'm not surprised.

I'm also very glad the 28X is in the first round--that Robinson loop really needed to go.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:44 AM
 
Location: South Oakland, Pittsburgh, PA
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...I suspect they will see some of their highest immediate returns from the whole TDP by changing the 61A/B, so I'm not surprised...
Let's just hope this would go some way to alleviate the bus bunching issues and drivers literally having to turn away riders because they're way past capacity...

Or if the whole rapid-bus thing really does get off the ground.
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:26 AM
 
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Or if the whole rapid-bus thing really does get off the ground.
They've got a request into the Feds for some serious money for the rapid bus plan. As we have discussed previously, that was the likely holdup--capital financing--so I am hopeful they will get that money and get right to work implementing it.
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:39 AM
 
Location: South Oakland, Pittsburgh, PA
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They've got a request into the Feds for some serious money for the rapid bus plan. As we have discussed previously, that was the likely holdup--capital financing--so I am hopeful they will get that money and get right to work implementing it.
Yeah I wasn't really doubting whether or not the project was going to get done it's just I'm hesitant to see what specific logistics will actually be achieved.

On a unrelated note, I was able to find a picture book of Pittsburgh's old streetcars while shopping. The PCC-era streetcars are quite still quite handsome in my opinion, and this is from a 22 year old guy who has only seen them in pictures and on the "T" lines as a little kid. There's just something refreshing about seeing the PCC cars on familiar roads in some of those pictures as opposed to even our very current busses.

Yeah I know I should stop living in the past, but hey, a guy can dream of a streetcar renaissance can't he?
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:02 AM
 
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The Heinz History Center has a fully-restored streetcar on the first level you can walk into. It is really incredibly nice (although I am sure the reality was a little less nice in most cases).

Anyway, I agree it remains to be seen what they really can achieve (every time I ride the 61s in particular, I am trying to figure out how they are going to deal with Squirrel Hill). Anyway, should be interesting, if they get the funding.
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:17 AM
 
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All service stops at 10pm? I don't use the bus that late but I have teens who use the bus system.

Otherwise, I'm pleased with the changes to my routes. The route will no longer go through Lawerenceville and will take the East Busway instead.
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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All service stops at 10pm?
Just if you live in suburbia.
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Old 12-28-2009, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Philly
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real streetcars are best left in nostalgia, they have all the problems of a bus (bunching, traffic, etc) with high capital costs and modest benefits. if buses are full, you're better off with a modern streetcar with much larger capacity. more importantly, that runs in its own ROW. streetcars can't get past parked cars, accidents, etc and can't detour easily.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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real streetcars are best left in nostalgia, they have all the problems of a bus (bunching, traffic, etc) with high capital costs and modest benefits. if buses are full, you're better off with a modern streetcar with much larger capacity. more importantly, that runs in its own ROW. streetcars can't get past parked cars, accidents, etc and can't detour easily.
Assuming that demand for petroleum far outstrips supply, it will become apparent that the oil based transportation systems (cars, buses, trucks) will lose appeal.

That leaves electric powered rail. I predict that as the century progresses, electric rail will become the dominant form of land transportation.
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