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Old 04-21-2011, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Passenger traffic certainly looks up to me.
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Old 04-21-2011, 06:30 PM
 
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PeterR. Yes, Spirit Airlines has not set up shop at Latrobe.
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:01 PM
 
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Here are some statistics for 2010 and comparisons with CLT and PHL, which might give some rational for UA's PIT decision.
Based on the DOT 2010 (High Season/Low Season) Report - Average Passengers/Day Between City Pair on All airlines (Includes both Non-Stop carriers (PIT=UA only) AND carriers with only connecting service (WN, AA, DL).

PIT-LAX-PIT = 425 (High Season) / 268 (Low Season) UA share =149 / 94 Passengers
PIT-SFO-PIT = 362 (High Season) / 252 (Low Season) UA share =148 / 103 Passengers
CLT-LAX-CLT = 604
CLT-SFO-CLT = 572
PHL-LAX-PHL = 1275
PHL-SFO-PHL = 1062
Assuming a UA 319 with a capacity of 120 seats. In High Season, the daily average passengers from PIT-LAX (On UA) is approximately 75 (149/2), which produces a Load Factor of 63% (75/120) - not typically a profitable venture. In Low Season (Winter) the daily average passengers from PIT-LAX (On UA) is approximately 47 (94/2), which produces a Load Factor of 40% (47/120). The above are Revenue Passengers. An aircraft may actually go out Full, however, the number of seats which are actually paid for can be significantly less (Frequent Flier awards, non-revenue airline travel, etc..). A note, these are AVERAGE daily passenger counts and likely represent days when the 319 has a much higher Revenue Load Factor and days when it is much lower. An airline can absorb marginally profitable routes for a period as long as fuel costs are below a certain level. Also, although PHL is likely representative of its MSA, with or without US, CLT would probably be closer to PIT if US left because of its very high connecting traffic ratio (72% of all traffic through CLT is connecting). The above analysis PIT to LAX and PIT to SFO assumes that nearly 100% of passengers departing PIT for LAX/SFO and visa versa, return to those same cities - which is usually the case.
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, USA
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PeterR. Yes, Spirit Airlines has not set up shop at Latrobe.
They just stop there on the way to somewhere else?
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Has anyone flown out of (LBE) Latrobe Arnold Palmer Regional to Fort Lauderdale or Myrtle Beach on Spirit's new non stop service ? Free on site airport parking, small scale facility and a good italian restaurant inside the terminal are pleasant aspects of flying out of this facility. Obviously for eastern burb folks the closeness of LBE is a big factor vs PIT.
A friend of mine just flew out of there to Ft. Lauderdale. He said it was great! I believe he paid $50 each way! Wow. I wish they flew more places, but maybe they will someday?
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:19 AM
 
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With Spirit, you get what you pay for. If you want to travel somewhere cheap with no frills, it is perfect because they do that buy charging extras for every little thing and packing the plane like a ferry in Bangladesh.
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Old 04-23-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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With Spirit, you get what you pay for. If you want to travel somewhere cheap with no frills, it is perfect because they do that buy charging extras for every little thing and packing the plane like a ferry in Bangladesh.
Seems like that is the same as all major airlines. No difference except the price.
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Old 04-23-2011, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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With Spirit, you get what you pay for. If you want to travel somewhere cheap with no frills, it is perfect because they do that buy charging extras for every little thing and packing the plane like a ferry in Bangladesh.
The sad thing is, all airlines are doing the same these days.
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