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Old 03-07-2011, 02:51 PM
 
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This is not a random bump. In a matter of days, we should have the actual 2010 population counts for the Pittsburgh Metro. But meanwhile, the Census Bureau has released its 2010 estimates for counties, and if you add it up, it looks like an actual increase for the Pittsburgh Metro:

Nullspace: Growth!

For those who don't want to reread this thread, last year the estimate was that while net migration was positive, population was still slightly negative (thanks to deaths outweighing births and net migration). As Chris Briem points out in the link above, deaths are likely still outweighing births, so this implies a further improvement in net migration.

Although soon we will be getting a hard count, I would note that strictly speaking, the hard counts only tell you what happened since the last hard count (2000). Year over year changes require different data, and so this sort of thing remains relevant. [Briem also makes these points.]
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Old 03-07-2011, 02:59 PM
 
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Good news!
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:11 PM
 
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Good news!
Indeed--although I wonder how long it will take before the natives start complaining about all the people moving here and ruining the place.
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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PA will be released this week by the Census so we will know in a few days whether or not our actual population is higher or lower than expected.
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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PA will be released this week by the Census so we will know in a few days whether or not our actual population is higher or lower than expected.
I know this reflects poorly on me, but I am very excited to get the data.

In addition to the overall population count, it will ultimately be interesting to see exactly where in the area people are living, what the age distribution is, and how those two questions intersect (e.g., where are people with kids living these days?).
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I know this reflects poorly on me, but I am very excited to get the data.

In addition to the overall population count, it will ultimately be interesting to see exactly where in the area people are living, what the age distribution is, and how those two questions intersect (e.g., where are people with kids living these days?).
I am a little excited too. It comes out at 3 from Tuesday-Thursday on the Census' web site and I can't look at it if it comes out on Tuesday or Wednesday until later at night.
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Old 03-07-2011, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I'm surprised this article wasn't posted also. Census figures show population gains in 4 counties
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Old 03-07-2011, 04:36 PM
 
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I'm surprised this article wasn't posted also. Census figures show population gains in 4 counties
Pittsburgh MSA population projections by county, 2009-2010

Allegheny: +1,204
Butler: +821
Washington: +267
Beaver: +159
Armstrong: -377
Westmoreland: -523
Fayette: -625

Non-Pittsburgh MSA population projections by county, 2009-2010

Indiana: -30
Greene: -179
Somerset: -437
Lawrence: -524

Looks like the trends are aligning just as I suspected they were last year: the Pittsburgh MSA is becoming more of a magnet with the exception of the "mountain" counties, and rural western Pennsylvania is continuing to empty out.
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Old 03-07-2011, 05:16 PM
 
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It's not really surprising to see that non-metro areas of Western PA are 'emptying out' because unfortunately, every time I travel to Greene, Fayette, Somerset counties, I wonder "what do all these people do for a living here?"
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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It's not really surprising to see that non-metro areas of Western PA are 'emptying out' because unfortunately, every time I travel to Greene, Fayette, Somerset counties, I wonder "what do all these people do for a living here?"
So do I, some parts of those counties aren't too far away from what I've seen in rural West Virginia. I'm surprised they estimated Westmoreland County had a population drop considering there has been some suburban growth there. I will be curious what the estimates will be going into future years around 2013 and after when the economy should be getting back to where it was at its previous peak to see if the recession was the only reason why the area gained population.
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