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Old 05-10-2010, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Parker Colorado
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Default Wayne Homes Vs Shumacher Homes? We are looking into building our own home..

Hi All,
We are currently under contract for 5 acres in Plum, and are looking to build our own home. We first looked at modulars, but overall they were more expensive when you add excavation, and the whole nine yards. I then started reviewing and searching builders, I will only use on that is affiliated with the BBB since I am not from this area. Has anyone used Shumacher or Wayne homes and what was your experience?
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Old 05-10-2010, 07:14 PM
 
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I can't comment on Wayne Homes quality, but take their price quotes with a grain of salt. I was going to build with them in 2004. Price quoted at the initial contract was $181k, but once we actually started to do the final numbers a few weeks before construction the price rose to over $200k. The problem is Wayne's prices are based purely on the lowest possible building cost. If you need any additional changes they'll nickel and dime you to death. My lot wasn't perfectly flat, so it was going to cost me an extra $8K just to make the one corner of the foundation deeper. Ok, this might not be their fault, but they do not tell you this up front that this is a possibility. One thing that did p*ss me off was they leave out stuff that is required by PA code. Again, when going over the final numbers the GC assigned to me mentions a $1200 charge to tie in the basement floor drain in to the main sewage system. He says 'this is required by code in PA'. Well, if it is required by code in PA and your price list is specifically for the Pittsburgh market then include it in the damn price. Don't add something later that is mandatory. I canceled the contract at this point because the house wouldn't have been worth what it was initially appraised at by their own lender. I'm glad I walked away. From what I found building a home on your own is not economically viable. Unless you get the lot for free or you absolutely love the property(or money is no object) it is cheaper just to buy an existing house or buy in a plan.
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Old 05-11-2010, 05:53 AM
 
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I would search for a smaller,custom builder. They will build you a home of any size from any plan. You will get a FAR better product than most, if not all, of the "type" builders mentioned. You will be better able to control costs as well.

I know folks who paid 500K for a Heartland Home and it's junk. They are "Heart-Broken" about what they got for the money. A 500k home from a "good, honest" custom builder would be a great home.

Do some research and ask around, there are some terrific custom builders just looking for a new project.
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Old 05-13-2010, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Parker Colorado
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Smaller builder? I have concerns about a smaller builder because I know of one whom stole so much money from not only the sub's but also the client. He is in prison now for five years but his wife whom was also apart of the scam is out "free n clear" and many think she was the mind behind the millions of dollars stolen. After knowing these "gem" of people I am concerned with a smaller builder.
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Old 05-13-2010, 08:29 AM
 
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Smaller builder? I have concerns about a smaller builder because I know of one whom stole so much money from not only the sub's but also the client. He is in prison now for five years but his wife whom was also apart of the scam is out "free n clear" and many think she was the mind behind the millions of dollars stolen. After knowing these "gem" of people I am concerned with a smaller builder.
Smaller............not CROOKED. There are many smaller, custom builders who are legit and have been in business for MANY years. That is why I mentioned doing some research on ANY builder. You are not being fair to yourself or a smaller/custom builder by stereotyping them because of this crook. I assure you there are many BIG builders who paint a rosy picture to get you to sign on the dotted line and then give you a sub-par product. Research, ask to talk to prior clients, do your homework and you will prove to yourself that not all small builders are shady.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Oakland CA
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If you are going to finance your home via a construction loan, ask the bank for a list of builders. Banks won't deal with a crummy builder, because the bank doesn't cut a check for the whole amount and hand it to the builder -- they dole it out in bits as the project is done and inspected. They won't deal with an idiot company that wastes money and time....

or steals.

A smaller bank that does lots of construction loans will know whos building quality....
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