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Old 05-15-2010, 01:44 PM
 
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Default Traffic lights on route 65 driving me crazy!

Unfortunately for me, there are times when I have to drive this route from pittsburgh clear to its farthest point in Beaver County. Sometimes it seems like I get stopped at every light.

There would be times when I am driving in a "pack" (you know the group of vehicles that get moved from one light to the next and the speeders break away from the pack) and I get stopped while the pack moves on. Now part of that, I finally figured out after I stopped taking it personally, is because I drive a 4-cyl put put with anemic acceleration from takeoff - great speed when cruizing - but I cause road rage for anyone behind me before I speed up.

That aside, I believe that I should not be stopped at every light even at the time it takes my car to get from one to the next. Sometimes I am at a traffic light and see zero cars or may just a couple coming from the cross street and then nothing for like 30 seconds or more. Absolutely maddening. Is it just me or what? Just more impatient than most people? Should I just accept this as one of the annoyances of modern life and stop bellyaching or expect better coordination of this element of the traffic system by local govt's?
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Oakland CA
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I also drive a 4 cyl. car... but it's a stick, so my acceleration is pretty good. (I'm a bit of a lead foot)

I've discovered that while lights aren't timed per se, sometimes by going just a few MPH below or above the speed limit you can time the lights. And I just mean a few. So if the speed limit is 35, try 33 or 37. 37 shouldn't get you nailed by the police, either.

That being said -- I hate getting stuck in packs either. I usually slow down to get out of them....
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Old 05-15-2010, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Lancaster County, PA & Sh-ittsburgh, PA
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Pittsburgh hasn't had a traffic engineer in their employ for years, so that accounts for the poor light timing within the city, as no one ever fixes them. Same could be said for the small towns, boroughs, etc. Most of those places contract out the traffic light work to other firms, who charge the community leaders for any work done, therefore, resulting in no retiming in those areas either.

Blame local governments/council members for being so cheap.
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Old 05-15-2010, 04:37 PM
 
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Thanks for the tip Tallysmom. However, driving over the limit may get me in trouble with the law. I'll get nowhere faster by under-obeying the law, but I might save my brakes and my sanity. I'll try it.
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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I don't think the lights are particularly timed on 65. Apart from a few groups here and there, they are pretty far apart. Many of them should stay green except for traffic coming from the side, at least at less peak times of day, but then sometimes what happens is someone comes from the side and turns right on red, then the 65 direction still gets a red several seconds later because of that trigger.

Driving under 5 mph OVER the limit is officially not a reason for police to stop you in PA. But really, I don't think the limit is the issue here. You could drive exactly the speed limit all the way through, and you're still going to get reds. It's just the nature of the road.
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Old 05-16-2010, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Athens, GA (via Pittsburgh, PA)
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It beats Georgia, where the traffic signals wait until traffic is approaching before turning red, instead of turning red when there's a gap in traffic. When the lights turn yellow, the first cars are too far away to get through without risking running a red, but too close to stop comfortably.
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Old 05-16-2010, 07:03 AM
 
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Thanks for the tip Tallysmom. However, driving over the limit may get me in trouble with the law. I'll get nowhere faster by under-obeying the law, but I might save my brakes and my sanity. I'll try it.
Sorry,

Should have said Over-obey the law.
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: South Oakland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I've also notice a poor timing of the lights on Rt. 910 near Freeport Road in Harmarville. What makes these lights so bad is that they're spaced so close to each other and they're not synced very well at all. Has anyone else noticed this? I feel like a very slight tweak could make things yards better...
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Old 05-16-2010, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Boardman, OH
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I've also notice a poor timing of the lights on Rt. 910 near Freeport Road in Harmarville. What makes these lights so bad is that they're spaced so close to each other and they're not synced very well at all. Has anyone else noticed this? I feel like a very slight tweak could make things yards better...
I've actually noticed more of a problem on the other end of 910. If the lights at 79 and then at Brandt School were better timed, I think you'd see a lot less backups there.
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Old 05-16-2010, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Athens, GA (via Pittsburgh, PA)
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Allegheny County desperately needs a traffic engineer.
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