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View Poll Results: Do you agree with banning homosexual men from donating blood for their entire lives?
Yes 56 43.41%
No 67 51.94%
Not sure 6 4.65%
Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-12-2010, 05:07 PM
 
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Bisexual men spreading AIDS is another thread.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:12 PM
 
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You can look it up yourself in medical journals.
You do know what "Burden of Proof," is, correct?

Don't bother though, because it takes two seconds to disprove your unsubstantiated claims.
SpringerLink - Journal Article
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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If the blood is clean and O+, stick it in me. I'm not a JW, I could care less concerning its source.
The problem is that blood tests can in fact miss deceases at the very early stages of incubation. So, while a virus may already be in the donated blood, only a very small sample of the blood is tested and there is a chance that the sample won't contain the virus. Now, in the case of a normal rate of incubation after a certain period of time, more than likely there will be enough viruses in the donated blood for a small sample to show the decease. With most deceases, it takes several blood tests in a certain period of time for determining if one has contracted the decease. There are false positive and false negative tests results taking place all the time. Another example: a nurse who gets pricked by a needle at the operating room usually goes through a series of tests, and these tests are repeated in a certain period of time. The first and even second test may not mean anything, and sometimes it can take months before the lab can determine if the nurse did not contract some decease from the patient.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:16 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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You do know what "Burden of Proof," is, correct?

Don't bother though, because it takes two seconds to disprove your unsubstantiated claims.
SpringerLink - Journal Article
From your link....

"Women in Western countries are less likely to continue HIV infectivity chains than are males engaging in same-gender anal intercourse."
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Upstate SC
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I do not think that gay men should be giving blood due to their lifestyles and high chance of possibly carrying HIV.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:21 PM
 
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You can look it up yourself in medical journals.
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From your link....

"Women in Western countries are less likely to continue HIV infectivity chains than are males engaging in same-gender anal intercourse."
The actual act of anal coitus is the same risk, what is being discussed, not the perpetuation of HIV.

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Anal intercourse carries an AIDS risk for women greater than that for vaginal coitus, just as receptive anal intercourse carries a very high risk for males.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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The problem is that blood tests can in fact miss deceases at the very early stages of incubation. So, while a virus may already be in the donated blood, only a very small sample of the blood is tested and there is a chance that the sample won't contain the virus. Now, in the case of a normal rate of incubation after a certain period of time, more than likely there will be enough viruses in the donated blood for a small sample to show the decease. With most deceases, it takes several blood tests in a certain period of time for determining if one has contracted the decease. There are false positive and false negative tests results taking place all the time. Another example: a nurse who gets pricked by a needle at the operating room usually goes through a series of tests, and these tests are repeated in a certain period of time. The first and even second test may not mean anything, and sometimes it can take months before the lab can determine if the nurse did not contract some decease from the patient.
Do I need to restate that? If the blood is clean, and it's O+, I could care less about its source.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:26 PM
 
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You do know what "Burden of Proof," is, correct?

Don't bother though, because it takes two seconds to disprove your unsubstantiated claims.
SpringerLink - Journal Article

Do you happen to have anything more current than 1991??
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:26 PM
 
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I do not think that gay men should be giving blood due to their lifestyles and high chance of possibly carrying HIV.
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better not take blood from straight people either. ya know the sometimes do the same thing sexually as gay people do
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:27 PM
 
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Can anyone explain why MSM account for more than half of all new HIV infections in the US each year (53%, or an estimated 28,700 infections)?

As well, MSM account for nearly half of the people in the US who are living with HIV.

http://www.cdc.gov/NCHHSTP/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-final508comp.pdf (broken link)
Tell me you read that entire thing? AUM's point is that if the blood is being tested, it doesn't matter where the source is because HIV can be rooted out. If the complaint is that gay men are high-risk, so are black women with a 22x higher risk of HIV.

The CDC study takes special note of why there is such a predominance of gay men in those with HIV: because they don't know. And why do they not know? Among the given reasons, social discrimination.
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