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View Poll Results: Do you agree with banning homosexual men from donating blood for their entire lives?
Yes 56 43.41%
No 67 51.94%
Not sure 6 4.65%
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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All it protects is your desire to discriminate against gay men.
I just checked the US Constitution and I couldn't find anythign about a right to donate blood. Health policies sometimes might make certain people in high risk groups feel bad. So be it. Health concerns are more important than hurt feelings.
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:41 PM
 
Location: NH
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Ban on gay blood donors upheld by panel - AIDS- msnbc.com

I think this proves that the government isn't testing all of the blood. If they were testing it, why would they need to use a ban like this?

Does it make sense that a heterosexual with 1000 sex partners can give blood, but if a guy has just one male sex partner, he's banned from donating blood for life? The government should be banning people according to their behaviors, not by their sexual orientation.
I think you hit the nail right on the head.
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:41 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Black women are 22 times more likely than white women to be infected with HIV. Why aren't black women banned from donating blood?

Fact Sheet: HIV/AIDS among African Americans | Resources | African Americans | Topics | CDC HIV/AIDS
Because apparently its alright to discriminate against gays, but not blacks or women. Go figure.
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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Well, it's a fact that there is a higher than normal incidence of HIV in the homosexual population. It's also a fact that a high percentage of people from certain regions around the world suffer from hepatitis and other deadly deceases. Shouldn't such blood be banned?
It's a fact that I'm HIV-negative and nearly celibate. It's also a fact that there are lots of heterosexuals who have been intimately involved with someone who is HIV-positive, yet those people aren't banned for life. How does that make sense?

And no, I wouldn't ban people based on where they come from. If the blood is being tested for hepatitis and HIV, then why would you ban people based on where they come from?
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:44 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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I just checked the US Constitution and I couldn't find anythign about a right to donate blood. Health policies sometimes might make certain people in high risk groups feel bad. So be it. Health concerns are more important than hurt feelings.
What about black women as the OPer stated? It doesn't have to be part of the constitution, its still discrimination if you choose one group and say you can do this because your different. And why are you ignoring everyone who keeps asking why doesn't the government just test all the blood. What if some straight guy has HIV? What about the gay guys who are clean?
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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I don't have any blood-borne diseases. Which diseases are you assuming that I might have?



All it protects is your desire to discriminate against gay men.
On the contrary. I am interested in my own preservation, not yours. Am I also discriminating agains anybody (homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, etc.) person from one of the banned regions around the world. Am I discriminating against US soldiers who may live, be stationed or travelled to these banned regions?

All you are doing is using "discrimination" to intimidate those who don't agree with you. If blood donations from homosexuals should not be banned, then the blood ban from certain regions around the world show also be lifted.
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Statistically? How about if the government did something brilliant and actually tested the blood as they say they do?




Actually, I would get around all of that by just lying. If the government is going to discriminate and make stupid decisions like this, then maybe I'll start donating blood once a week and just lie to them. Why not? My blood is as clean any heterosexual's.

It's not surprising that Republicans would support the ban since they don't believe in science.
Come on, AUM, don't label me. I've never labeled you....

I honestly can't say I support it or not.
I'm just as shocked as you are that, apparently, not all the blood is being tested.

BUUUUUT.............A texting driver is 60 times more likely to wreck, so it has been pushed forward to stop any use of phones while driving.
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:45 PM
 
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I just checked the US Constitution and I couldn't find anythign about a right to donate blood. Health policies sometimes might make certain people in high risk groups feel bad. So be it. Health concerns are more important than hurt feelings.
This has nothing to do with the Constitution. Duh. And it has nothing to do with hurt feelings either. It's about being rational and logical, and making intelligent health policy decisions.

Tell me why a celibate gay man's blood is riskier than the blood of a heterosexual who has had 500 sex partners over the past year.

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Old 06-11-2010, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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BTW, blood centers also ban you (for life) if you've been stationed in England, between 1980 and 1996, for more than 6 months.
Or if you've ever had Molaria.....

or.....a while range of dis-qualifiers.
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:47 PM
 
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BUUUUUT.............A texting driver is 60 times more likely to wreck, so it has been pushed forward to stop any use of phones while driving.
That's not a good argument unless you can also prove that an HIV-positive gay man's blood somehow slips through the testing process and goes undetected.

Again: Are they testing the blood supply or aren't they?
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