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Old 06-14-2010, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I understand what you're saying, but we should be pushing for a completely worldwide ban without any 'compromises' in between.
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:58 AM
 
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I understand what you're saying, but we should be pushing for a completely worldwide ban without any 'compromises' in between.
Yeah, shouldnt we? I wonder why it's not so simple
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Old 06-14-2010, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yeah, shouldnt we? I wonder why it's not so simple

It is that simple. What it's not is politically expedient.
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Old 06-14-2010, 05:06 AM
 
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It is that simple. What it's not is politically expedient.
Define "politically expedient" in terms of international diplomacy and you'll see why it's not that simple. What do you expect the US to do, send ships out to stop the whaling ships? Or, um, work with the governments to make legal changes they dont want to make?
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:13 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Default Look out whales!

Whenever PO steps outside his perceived character and makes a contradictory statement it appears he is setting the satge for disaster to follow.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:26 AM
 
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Whenever PO steps outside his perceived character and makes a contradictory statement it appears he is setting the satge for disaster to follow.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:33 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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I understand what you're saying, but we should be pushing for a completely worldwide ban without any 'compromises' in between.
I know of nothing giving the U.S. the right to be world's dictator and tell other countries they can't eat whale meat.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Even George W. didn't try a stunt like this...and he's was hardly what most people consider an "environmentalist". This is disgusting.

Brenda Peterson: Whales Worth More Alive: Uphold the Moratorium Against Whale Hunting
How do you spell M O R O N
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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How do you spell M O R O N
I agree. Her reasoning alone on the oil spill indicates she's not credible. First of all, Obama required extensive testing to be done before any more offshore drilling could commence. Secondly, she blames Obama for the oil spill because he lifted the moratorium. The moratorium was lifted on March 31st, three weeks before the spill. So, in three weeks time, it's Obama's fault.
The oil spill is consuming most of the Obama administration's time. Pressing issues like the IWC"s upcoming vote to allow some commercial whaling is on the back burner along with some other environmental issues. I suspect the bush administration spent most of their time focusing on 9/11. The oil spill is Obama's 9/11.

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Please, President Obama, think of the future. You lifted the moratorium on offshore drilling and now we're suffering the worst environmental tragedy in U.S. history. You haven't stopped the oil from spilling in the Gulf; but you can uphold the moratorium against whale hunting.
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You can get answers to those at Politifact, OR you can lie around and complain and wait for someone else to do it for you like a lazy lefty liberal welfare queen. (And then because you didnt earn it yourself, disrespect it and ignore it.)

PolitiFact | Restrict warrantless wiretaps - Obama promise No. 180:

PolitiFact | Reduce earmarks to 1994 levels - Obama promise No. 431:

PolitiFact | Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center - Obama promise No. 177:

not sure how to look up for you ´´end the status quo in Washington.´´
All your cut and pasting did nothing to excuse 0bama from stating he will "ban all earmarks" and then signing dozens of bills with well over 10,000 earmarks.

He also stated he would close Gitmo... its not closed.

0bama:

"No one should get a free pass to violate the basic civil liberties of the American people – not the President of the United States, and not the telecommunications companies that fell in line with his warrantless surveillance program. We have to make clear the lines that cannot be crossed.

That is why I am co-sponsoring Senator Dodd’s amendment to remove the immunity provision. Secrecy must not trump accountability. We must show our citizens – and set an example to the world – that laws cannot be ignored when it is inconvenient."


Either 0bama routinely makes asinine statements without thinking them thru, or he actually believes in what he says, but someone is pulling his strings for him, and he is unable to follow thru on his statements.

So which is is it, is 0bama an idiot, or a puppet?
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