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Unread 06-20-2010, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I don't have children and haven't been a child for a long time so if this question sounds basic, please forgive me.

How would a school find out you're sexting outside the classroom?

"Schools now want to punish students caught "sexting" -- no matter where they do it. The Department of Education wants to ban both cyber bullying and sexting in New York City's public schools at all times, even outside of school hours."

NYC Going After Teen 'Sexting' -- In The Home - wcbstv.com (http://wcbstv.com/local/sexting.nyc.sexting.2.1760507.html - broken link)

I get both sides of this sexting issue. Really, I do. I'm more interested in how the school finds out what you do on your phone outside of the school. Do the parents of the recipient report it to the police and then the police takes some kind of criminal action against the sender and also report it to the school? Or, do the parents of the recipient go straight to the school with it? Or do the parents of the recipient report it to the service provider and the service provider reports it to the police who then advise the school? Is there some kind of criminal charge against the sender regardless of school involvement? Can you block text messages on your phone like you can block spam on a computer?
It is NONE of the schools damn business what my kids do and don't do when they are not at school. If they had tried that crap even once, I would have went to the school and put them in their place. It is not their business what kids do on their computers and cell phones off school property and outside school hours. I paid for my kids computer and cell phones. The school doesn't. The school should worry more about teaching and test scores than what kids do when they are not at school.
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Unread 06-20-2010, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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The school created you, and now your child - the school is the Factory.

Why call a middle man?


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Unread 06-20-2010, 08:42 PM
 
Location: The better side of PA
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It is NONE of the schools damn business what my kids do and don't do when they are not at school. If they had tried that crap even once, I would have went to the school and put them in their place. It is not their business what kids do on their computers and cell phones off school property and outside school hours. I paid for my kids computer and cell phones. The school doesn't. The school should worry more about teaching and test scores than what kids do when they are not at school.
But Kev the schools are only trying to raise kids with a fair, tolerant, open-minded, programmed mindset. Oh oops, did I say schools are trying to raise kids? Damn, the liberal Nanny State got me on that one
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Unread 06-20-2010, 08:47 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Originally Posted by LauraC View Post
I don't have children and haven't been a child for a long time so if this question sounds basic, please forgive me.

How would a school find out you're sexting outside the classroom?

"Schools now want to punish students caught "sexting" -- no matter where they do it. The Department of Education wants to ban both cyber bullying and sexting in New York City's public schools at all times, even outside of school hours."

NYC Going After Teen 'Sexting' -- In The Home - wcbstv.com (http://wcbstv.com/local/sexting.nyc.sexting.2.1760507.html - broken link)

I get both sides of this sexting issue. Really, I do. I'm more interested in how the school finds out what you do on your phone outside of the school. Do the parents of the recipient report it to the police and then the police takes some kind of criminal action against the sender and also report it to the school? Or, do the parents of the recipient go straight to the school with it? Or do the parents of the recipient report it to the service provider and the service provider reports it to the police who then advise the school? Is there some kind of criminal charge against the sender regardless of school involvement? Can you block text messages on your phone like you can block spam on a computer?
Most people are woefully incapable of keeping their mouth shut. Most likely another student, out of jealousy, or anger or a self-righteous sense of "doing what is right", rats them out. In case you have forgotten what it was like, kids can be incredibly mean, vindictive and cruel. Especially if they have something to gain from it.

If the parents allow, or are too brain dead to know what is going on in their little pwecious childrens lives, that is one thing, but it should not be up to the school to play parent in this case.

20yrsinBranson
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Unread 06-20-2010, 08:56 PM
 
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Whatever happened to "parenting" by actual parents instead of the school system... ahh... yes, its what liberals like... Bigger Government...
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Unread 06-20-2010, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Whatever happened to "parenting" by actual parents instead of the school system... ahh... yes, its what liberals like... Bigger Government...
When my kids were in school, the school day ended at 3:30. What happened after that was my business, not theirs.
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Unread 06-20-2010, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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So, I'm gathering that neither the police or the cell phone service provider are the ones notifying the NY schools and that sending sexually explicit images is not a criminal offense in NY hence detention instead of a criminal sentence.

But, I'm reading otherwise when I just did some research. Some senders (in other states) are being charged with child pornography and are being placed on the sex offender registry. So, I'm still confused as to why the school is involved if it doesn't happen on school property. It's either a crime or it isn't.

Teen ‘sexting’: Youthful prank or sex crime?:

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"Sexting" Leads to Child Porn Charges for Teens - CBS Evening News - CBS News

'Sexting' lands teen on sex offender list - CNN.com

Ohio House backs making teen 'sexting' crime | Columbus Dispatch Politics (http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/05/27/copy/ohio-house-backs-making-teen-sexting-crime.html?sid=101 - broken link)
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Unread 06-20-2010, 09:51 PM
 
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The more I think on this, the more I suspect a human hand. Yes the government could pretty much have its will with your internet, cellphone, landline, etc... communications but more often than not, its people who are the weakest link.

I wouldn't be surprised in this case if it wasn't a friend of a friend sort of thing who had an ax to grind. I highly doubt there is any nefarious part on the government or the school to uncover a teenagers text messages. If this were the case, then out entire country is doom if we don't have better things to do.
If student 'sexting' disrupts the classroom in any way - even if the message was sent/received during non-school hours - the school can rightfully take action against the students involved.
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Unread 06-21-2010, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Northeast Ohio
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Originally Posted by LauraC View Post
So, I'm gathering that neither the police or the cell phone service provider are the ones notifying the NY schools and that sending sexually explicit images is not a criminal offense in NY hence detention instead of a criminal sentence.

But, I'm reading otherwise when I just did some research. Some senders (in other states) are being charged with child pornography and are being placed on the sex offender registry. So, I'm still confused as to why the school is involved if it doesn't happen on school property. It's either a crime or it isn't.

Teen ‘sexting’: Youthful prank or sex crime?:

Teen

"Sexting" Leads to Child Porn Charges for Teens - CBS Evening News - CBS News

'Sexting' lands teen on sex offender list - CNN.com

Ohio House backs making teen 'sexting' crime | Columbus Dispatch Politics (http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/05/27/copy/ohio-house-backs-making-teen-sexting-crime.html?sid=101 - broken link)
It isn't the government's job to discipline children; its the parents job. Maybe some parents would disagree with me, but I think there are worse things that teens today are doing rather than sending pictures of their boobs or penis to each other. Poorly phrased sentence, but you get the point.
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Unread 06-21-2010, 01:50 PM
 
Location: PA
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Originally Posted by LauraC View Post
I don't have children and haven't been a child for a long time so if this question sounds basic, please forgive me.

How would a school find out you're sexting outside the classroom?

"Schools now want to punish students caught "sexting" -- no matter where they do it. The Department of Education wants to ban both cyber bullying and sexting in New York City's public schools at all times, even outside of school hours."

NYC Going After Teen 'Sexting' -- In The Home - wcbstv.com (http://wcbstv.com/local/sexting.nyc.sexting.2.1760507.html - broken link)

I get both sides of this sexting issue. Really, I do. I'm more interested in how the school finds out what you do on your phone outside of the school. Do the parents of the recipient report it to the police and then the police takes some kind of criminal action against the sender and also report it to the school? Or, do the parents of the recipient go straight to the school with it? Or do the parents of the recipient report it to the service provider and the service provider reports it to the police who then advise the school? Is there some kind of criminal charge against the sender regardless of school involvement? Can you block text messages on your phone like you can block spam on a computer?

Lets see well first they have the phone if they let them have the phone then OH WELL school your not winning the case.
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