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And neither does a marriage between a 90-year-old man and a 90-year-old woman, or a marriage between a couple where the man is impotent or the woman is infertile. And some couples choose not to have children at all. Should they be denied marriage licenses too?
And your .00001% example is to undue the majority?
YOur example is kind of like saying a Soldier kills people legally in war, so if we get into a fight with our neighbor, then we should be able to kill them if it is in our interest.
There is law, and there is truth. NO matter how hard a group tries to obsficate the obvious, truth will prevail, and there is always a higher law, not made by man.
which is why we should abolish MARRIAGE altogehter, and go with Civil Unions for EVERYONE.
too funny. Do you realize that this statement was a prophecy over 2000 yrs. ago.
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Marriage is just some religious concept anyway. Since we want to separate the influence of the religious from law, doing away with Marriage from law would be the best option.
So is law, do you suggest that law be undone and we fall into anarchy? Are you an anarchist? Do you realize where law originates?
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so what? even hetero marriages produce not offspring. Due to medical or even a choice based on the couple.
YOu do realize that no one gets on this planet without a man and a woman. Birds and bees 101.
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you do know that since the advent of medicine and technology that this belief is not longer even held?
Thanks for living in the 1600's where it mattered. this is the 21st century. People can have children without even being married; and many women choose to adopt or even go invitro and never had or have a husband.
It would only take one solar flare to knock out man's ways of bastardizing God's ways. No power, no lab babies. Regardless, it still takes a man and a woman. NO eggs, NO spermies, NO babies.
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Well marriage is a term for Christians and Catholics. What about other religions who do not have a word "marriage". They have unions.
Abolish marriage...make civil unions across the board.
Actually Marriage has become a secular term, with a legal pluthera of consequences and duties. Another bastardization of the truth, and it's origins.
Question. Is the world getting kinder, more loving, more peaceful with all of these great man made innovations? Are there less wars, murders, natural disasters?
I think man is in way over his head, and ready to have it handed to him on a plate.
And your .00001% example is to undue the majority?
The examples I gave comprise a lot more than .00001%.
And since the percentage of same-sex couples who would get married is very small, it really doesn't affect society much, except to make life better and more inclusive for people who want to marry someone of the same sex.
I guess if you're against inclusiveness and in favor of prejudice, then by all means, continue to rant against same-sex marriage. Regardless of the rants, it's inevitable that civil unions and same-sex marriage will be legal across the country eventually.
And your .00001% example is to undue the majority?
so pulling figures out your nether regions is the only talent you have?
There are millions of couples in this nation that are unable to have children due to medical issues, age, and even choice.
So, again, your "procreation" reason why marriage was developed WORKEd 4 centuries ago, when medicine wasn't as readily available and the normal life span of someone was just under 60 years of age.
this is the 21st century. People live longer, medicine is a lot better, and the reason to get married isn't based on having children. Its based on love, and more often than not, financial stability.
Your truth is the truth from the 1600's. Today, it doesn't apply.;
too funny. Do you realize that this statement was a prophecy over 2000 yrs. ago.
Civil unions was a prophecy 2000 years ago? YOu care to provide proof of that claim.
I live today. Marriage is outdated and of course a religious act. Do away with marriage in ALL forms of law, and only enact Civil Unions
If the religious nuts want to have their "marriages" then they can go through their church to do so. Let the chruch draw up a piece of paper with "Marriage" typed on it, so that the religious nuts will feel better about it.
Civil unions can be performed by the govt or even a church.
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So is law, do you suggest that law be undone and we fall into anarchy? Are you an anarchist? Do you realize where law originates?
nice straw man.
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YOu do realize that no one gets on this planet without a man and a woman. Birds and bees 101.
So what? I can go to a invitro lab, read through a catalog of donor sperm, pay the $20,000 and get pregnant. No man involved, no attachments needed. I can have a child with out a man in my life, no problems.
or i can get pregnant, and not bother to have the guy in my life .
women can still have babies and not be married.
The "marriage for procreation" went out in the 1900's. Join us in the 21st will ya?
I recently saw on the news anti-gay rights protesters. This, to be blunt, pisses me off. I personally think that gays have every right to be married. It's unfair how so many people who are against this try to press their own beliefs onto others.
Obviously religion plays a big part in this and how Christianity says that homosexuality is a "sin". This in my mind just shows how people are either extremely insecure or want to try to dictate their religion onto others.
If you don't believe in gay rights, heck that's fine, but when you don't believe in it to the point of complaining about it, protesting it, and trying to put an end to gay rights in general, that's when there's a problem.
This is all comming from a straight, 18 year-old college student with no gay friends or family. I just feel that they have all the same rights as heterosexual people do. I couldn't care less about the idiotic sayings of the bible and the views of the ignorant and moronic religious community!
you got it right, most people who don't think gays should have right comes from religious teaching and fear of what homosexuals do behind closed doors. never mind it is the same things hetros do
The sad thing is that we are even having this discussion in our society today. Our found fathers would be turning over in their graves if they ever dreamed what this country has come to.
The bottom line is that the definition of "marriage" was never in question before. We all know what a marriage is, a union between a man and a woman.
Even the term, "gay rights" bugs me. We all have the same rights, gays have the same rights as non homosexuals to get married.
They are not being deprived of anything although they would have you believe otherwise.
And the truth is that they can have civil ceremonies but they want the so called "perks" of marriage, social security benefits etc. The bottom line is the dollar in so many ways.
NO, the bottom line is raising a gay family with all of the protections, rights and responsibilities that hetro couples receive with one piece of paper from the State. So $$ never counts in this society? that's not the United States that I know.
Well, it's a sign of a prosperous society that the idle fat and stupid have enough time on their hands to lobby for the withholding of rights or freedoms to groups of their fellow citizens. It's sad, but its better than living in a place where survival is the main concern.
Civil unions was a prophecy 2000 years ago? YOu care to provide proof of that claim.
My comment was in regards to outlawing marriage.
1Ti 4:1 ¶ Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
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I live today. Marriage is outdated and of course a religious act. Do away with marriage in ALL forms of law, and only enact Civil Unions
Between you and PETA, the end is getting closer and closer.
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So what? I can go to a invitro lab, read through a catalog of donor sperm, pay the $20,000 and get pregnant. No man involved, no attachments needed. I can have a child with out a man in my life, no problems.
So your saying we have synthetic sperm? NOT.
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or i can get pregnant, and not bother to have the guy in my life .
That's really worked well in the black community.
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women can still have babies and not be married.
The original meaning of the word marriage, is what we call SEX today.
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The "marriage for procreation" went out in the 1900's. Join us in the 21st will ya?
Really? Where the hell did all these people come from then?
good. then we'll go about making sure that the law no longer discriminates against a subclass of citizens in this country.
Women couldn't vote for a long time. then the law was changed so that they could, because many recognized it was unconstitutional to do prevent them from doing so
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There are laws against marrying children as well, are you prejudice to a 40 yr. old man marrying a 10 yr. old boy or girl?
Slippery Slope fallacy. Don't be using Logical fallacies to support your claims
Canada has legalized same sex marriage; can you tell me if they passed a law that allowed your logical fallacy?
Denmark has legalized Same sex marriage; can you tell me if they passed a law that allowed your logical fallacy?
South Africa has legalized Same Sex marriage ; can you tell me if they passed a law that allowed your logical fallacy?
Spain, Portugal, Iceland -- all coutnries that have legalize same sex marriages.... please provide proof that their laws lead to laws that allowed your logical fallacy.
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How far do we take this perversion of truth? What is the cut off point of deviance?
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unfortunately, your "truth" spreads lies, and hatred against citizens who's activities you don't agree with. Too bad.
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