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Old 06-23-2010, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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^^^^^^ Hawkeye2009

You need to stop watching Fix (FOX) ASAP. With all do respect, the above accusation do not have any legitimate merit.


1. No support for Arizona law to control illegals and actually threatening to sue. Obama has abandoned the American people in favor of illegals.


I don't support the law either because it will not solve AZ immigration problems. It will only give Police officers the right to racial profile.

2. Telling a sitting US senator that the administration will not enforce immigration laws and the border, so that politicians might "support" Obama's plan to legalize illegals.

BOGUS.....

3. Threatening an "executive order" to grant amnesty to illegals, subverting the congress and senate.

Lost me with that one.

4. Interfering with a US election and attempting to bribe Sestak

All Politician in the Past, Present and Future has done it.

5. Adding $3.2 trillion in debt though Obamacare to a national debt which cannot take any more. We need cuts in spending, not more spending.

Reform is needed. I would rather spend that money on sick Americans instead of building a new IRAQ.

6. Blowing $1 trillion on a failed "stimulus", which was essentially a giant liberal pork program that created no jobs

Wrong! Ask GM and Wall Street if the Stimulus failed.


7. Failure to regulate off shore oil drilling safety and failure to manage the spill in a competent fashion, while devoting time in that same period to Paul McCartney, the Duke basketball team, and golf.


That's why the moratorium was in placed to check out what the Oil companies refuse to regulate. Oh..If he would of tried to do that before the spill. "OMG! Big government.. He is trying to take over the Oil companies now".

8. "Laying off" 30,000 oil workers in the Gulf to soothe his hurt feelings over his incompetence in managing the spill

Hello! We have the worst oil disaster of all time. He didn't lay off any existing Oil drillers, just the new ones.


9. Paying off his master, George Soros, by granting $2 billion in support for Brazilian offshore drilling.

Fiction!

So I guess Dick Cheney company (Halliburton) in Iraq was ok?


10. Failure to control the national debt at all by controlling spending, ensuring our insolvency or severe austerity measures on the part of the next president who will be forced to clean up after Obama.

Can you at least agree he is trying to fix what Bush created?


11. Allowing the Iranians to secure the bomb.


OK That's have 3 wars now.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It's been documented that Obama pretty much followed all of the recommendations of General McChrystal.
Yep, that's why he targeted everyone except the president. The president supported McCrystal proposal
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:40 AM
 
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What decorated hero who has been fighting for America for many years would work for an anti American hack in the first place.

He knows Obama is totally clueless and knows Obama is making decisions that are not good for America.

McChrystal is a well decorated American hero with years of success behind him and has to answer to a pimp from Chicago would cannot run a popcorn stand correctly.
Yes..yes..and yes again
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:40 AM
 
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The real truth is if he doesn't understand the chain of command he's the weak link in the chain.
I'd rather have a General that stood up for the troops on the front line than one that worried about what some idiot in the White House thought!
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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I think this guy is a total idiot for saying those things. I can't believe he thought the comments were a good idea.. Lapse of judgment my ass. He knew exactly what he was going to say and now only regrets it b/c everyone thinks he's a fool, and rightfully so.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:42 AM
 
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My man Obama doesnt have time for all these cry babies and people that are job slackers. A good soldier keeps his mouth shut and takes his orders. The general needs to hit the road....Maybe he can team up with Rush Limpballs///lol
I think "your man" should go over to Afghanistan and fight himself..without body amour of course...
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:44 AM
 
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I find it a bit disturbing that many on this thread are latched onto the "Chain of Command" concept instead of the real issue here, which is that of a military general espousing the idea that the President is percieved to be clueless about what's going on in Afghanistan and how to strategize the war.

It should disturb you more that the President is thought to be inept, and less that the General made condescending remarks. The best I can tell, those who are bent on arguing the Chain of Command idea are the ones who believe Barack Obama can do no wrong. These people are being very shallow and ignoring the real issue here in my view.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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I would like to hear some suggestions from you complainers about how you would win the war in Afghanistan. Start with:

Define winning. What would a win look like?

How would you win?

How much would it cost? How many Lives and how much money?

Who would pay for the war? Bankers, Oil companies, the US public?

Just what would a victory in Afghanistan be worth to each of you?

Would you be willing to go fight for a victory in Afghanistan or are you too busy making a fortune at home?
Honestly, no one really wins. Either way, it's still a tragedy.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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I find it a bit disturbing that many on this thread are latched onto the "Chain of Command" concept instead of the real issue here, which is that of a military general espousing the idea that the President is percieved to be clueless about what's going on in Afghanistan and how to strategize the war.

It should disturb you more that the President is thought to be inept, and less that the General made condescending remarks. The best I can tell, those who are bent on arguing the Chain of Command idea are the ones who believe Barack Obama can do no wrong. These people are being very shallow.
I don't question his ability to do his job at all, I think he was extremely inappropriate. Holding his job title, you just can't say those things to a magazine reporter.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:47 AM
 
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sour grapes, need a bit of cheese for your whine? LOL to get back on topic.....I hope obama accepts the general's resignation
All I did was answer this persons post. Sour Grapes? Nope. In time, all horrible things go away. The first step is November 2nd, the next wave is 2012.

Maybe Barry will have a Keg of beer at the white house for their meeting.
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