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Old 07-02-2010, 09:00 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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That wording might allow Chicago to declare all space outside private homes sensitive areas, after all that city (like most cities) has a crime problem.
No it won't, it's quite clear the intent of the SCOTUS. Furthermore, they pointed out "to keep and bear" includes the right to carry outside one's home.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:18 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I guess the fact that 4 out of those 9 judges had a different opinion shows that the interpretation of the second amendment is indeed just that, an interpretation (after all, each and every one of those judges is highly qualified and has studied law etc. their entire lives), which of course means that one has to take historical aspects into account, for instance that law enforcement, policing and the entire organization of society looked quite different at the time the second amendment was written.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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It's time for the cities to simply back off and realize that Americans have the right to own / possess firearms.

Requirements like trigger locks are perhaps reasonable (if children in the home) but, other than that, sit down and shut up cities
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:10 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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I guess the fact that 4 out of those 9 judges had a different opinion shows that the interpretation of the second amendment is indeed just that, an interpretation (after all, each and every one of those judges is highly qualified and has studied law etc. their entire lives), which of course means that one has to take historical aspects into account, for instance that law enforcement, policing and the entire organization of society looked quite different at the time the second amendment was written.
It was pure political ideology on their part. Stevens' dissent is disturbing in that he is a statist and cares little for any rights.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:12 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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It's time for the cities to simply back off and realize that Americans have the right to own / possess firearms.

Requirements like trigger locks are perhaps reasonable (if children in the home) but, other than that, sit down and shut up cities
Aren't cities responsible for policing, crime prevention etc.? So why would they shut up as you put it, when whatever the result is reflects on cities instead of Washington, the NRA etc.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:17 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Aren't cities responsible for policing, crime prevention etc.? So why would they shut up as you put it, when whatever the result is reflects on cities instead of Washington, the NRA etc.
Because it's a felony to infringe on a civil right.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:42 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Because it's a felony to infringe on a civil right.
To me it seems like it is all about where to draw the lines, which exceptions to make etc. The amendments themselves were later additions to the constitution, so are exceptions and additional rules, limitations and laws, which have been put in place because the constitution and amendments in turn were not enough anymore.
One can see that in the differentiation between modern firearms, some of which have been invented after the second amendment was written. Which ones to allow and which ones to forbid, and why?
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:44 AM
 
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Lol, no thanks, I am way too civilized and intelligent for shooting If I need fun or relaxation I listen to or make music. I have never taken drugs, either, despite some fools trying to coax me into it.
What an ignorant, arrogant European elitist attitude.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:49 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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What an ignorant, arrogant European elitist attitude.
Doesn't have to do with Europe because a) there are Americans who feel the same way, and b) because there are gun nuts over here, too.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Aren't cities responsible for policing, crime prevention etc.? So why would they shut up as you put it, when whatever the result is reflects on cities instead of Washington, the NRA etc.
Again, the USSC has said that the individual is PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE for their own safety - not the Police.
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