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Old 06-29-2010, 12:43 PM
 
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What makes you two think there are ANY rules about spying? Or sinking each others ships when it becomes necessary?
When it becomes necessary? That is an act of war and there these things called ROE's. So, yes, there are rules.
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Old 06-29-2010, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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What makes you two think there are ANY rules about spying? Or sinking each others ships when it becomes necessary?
Not sure where you're getting at, neither is acceptable. And when caught, actions need to be taken, and with consistency (laws).
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Old 06-29-2010, 01:01 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Spying has never gone away. The US is also pretty active in that area, Brits as well... After all, the infrastructure and networks is already there, what to do with it and the employees?
I guess the focus might have shifted a bit from politics towards economics. There has been repeated strain between the EU and the US because of the ongoing US spying on European companies Germany in particular has been the target of Russia, the US and China.
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Old 06-29-2010, 01:25 PM
 
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Not sure where you're getting at, neither is acceptable. And when caught, actions need to be taken, and with consistency (laws).
This I can absolutely agree with you on.
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Very true.

What scares me is that many of our leaders seem to want to "hold hands and sing songs" with these Govts.
Wants? We already are. The Russians are useful when we need them and vice versa.
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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See comments like that baffle me and open up a whole new round of questions.
Yes we do spy on friends as they do us but............

Do people such as yourself realize that as much as we "believe" in this whole world order crap....Its all non-sense.

America 1st........other countries 2nd.......thats my belief,it seems to me that many in this country have this "we are the world crap".....Go over to one of these ****-hole countries and see if they care were your from before they slit your throat.

People need to wake up!

We will always have enemies....plain and simple.
And sometimes they are our allies at the same time. Not so plain and simple.
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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This "espionage affair" between U.S. and Russia looks like a James Bond movie. Never ending, always has a continuation.
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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I'm not too concerned about these alleged Russian spies for several reasons:

1-I'm sure we have our own American spies in Russia. Just part of the game...occassionally they get caught. The Israelis had spies in our country that we've discovered--the Chinese have done it in the past; Are we really naive enough to think that this isn't happening between most countries in the world?

2-Russian spies seems like such a quaint throwback at this point that it's kind of a fun reminder of Cold War-nostalgia and what the world was like prior to having to worry about Islamic militants all the time. The old James Bond and spy films were a lot better when the Russians were around to be used as protagonists.

3-Have you seen the pictures of one of the alleged Russian spies?
Anna Chapman Photos: Pictures Of Alleged Russian Spy "Anya" Chapman

Only thing she's guilty of is giving me a stiffy...What's her bail? I'll pay it in full...
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Small Town USA Population about 15,000
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Im confused about this. I noticed that most (all?) of those who were arrested as Russian spies had "American" names and lived in normal communities across our country from suburban Boston to Seattle.

Now:

1) Were these people deep cover Russians using American sounding names to blend in easier or were they native born Americans hired by the Russians?

2) If the above answer is yes, they are native born Americans then why are we not trying them for espionage (and/or treason) and execute them? These people are traitors and they deserve alot more then 5 years in a federal prison. After they dance a *** on the end of a rope we should cut their heads off and send them to Putin. He will never f--k with us again.


Because that is not the American way....that would be inhuman
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Old 06-29-2010, 04:46 PM
 
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Russian spies in UK 'at cold war levels', says MI5 | World news | The Guardian

"Russia is interested in particular in the energy policies of the west, given the importance of its own oil and natural gas reserves, and the Kremlin's determination to use them as an instrument of foreign policy, the officials said. Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian president, is a former chairman of Gazprom, Russia's giant energy company.

"Though Britain is less dependent on energy imports than continental countries, both Labour and the coalition government has highlighted the issue in their national security strategies.

"They have made the point that Russia and China were making control of energy supply a foreign policy priority."
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