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Old 10-18-2011, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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I read comments on here daily loosely using terms like "communist" and "Marxist" to the extent the author appears to not know what the terms mean. I have serious doubts many on here can accurately define either term. So I'd like people to please honestly answer the question, have you ever read "The Communist Manifesto", written by Karl Marx? And I will give rep points to anyone who can tell me who the co-author was!
Yes, I have, in college, and reread part of a copy that I bought three years ago at Barnes and Noble. I have not read Das Kapital, but it's on my list. It was Friedrich Engels.

So, if anyone to the left of the Tea Party is communist, does that mean I can call anyone to the right of Marx a fascist?
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:31 PM
 
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one of the basic tenants of marxism is the forced redistribution of wealth. this president want to force redistribution of wealth on a large scale in this country, and his policies bear this out.

another tenant is government ownership or control of business and industry. well under obama the government now owns or controls something like 71% of the private business in this country.

just these two things alone are solid evidence that obama is a marxist.
How many conservative multimillionaires are and or have outsourced American jobs to Communist Red China? I'm sure its plenty, so are they traitors? As far as the Fed owning 70% of business in the US----Bullchit.
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:33 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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hmmmm.... interesting....
They do not allow hunting or farming for yourself, either....
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:35 PM
 
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Twista, which do you prefer? Communism or Capitalism?
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Twista, which do you prefer? Communism or Capitalism?

Capitalism, is not Corporatism. Lets get that straight right here!

Free market capitalism, is not fascist corporatism.
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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one of the basic tenants of marxism is the forced redistribution of wealth. this president want to force redistribution of wealth on a large scale in this country, and his policies bear this out.

another tenant is government ownership or control of business and industry. well under obama the government now owns or controls something like 71% of the private business in this country.

just these two things alone are solid evidence that obama is a marxist.
"one of the basic tenants of marxism is the forced redistribution of wealth."

Sure it is. Until they actually take power and that redistribution never materializes. As a matter of fact lots of people die. Stalin starved whole villages. That redistribution junk is for the sheep.

Where has wealth in this Fascist/socialistic economy gone the last 30-40 years? Yep, right to the top.

"another tenant is government ownership or control of business and industry."

They don't give a rat's a$$ if the government or 'private' interests own the industries. They own and run both. They decide who will run and get elected & pay off the rest. And own enough stock/controlling interest in any huge company/corporation/Bank worth a damn.

"just these two things alone are solid evidence that obama is a marxist."

Just these two things alone are solid evidence that Obama is a nothing. Probably apolitical, he's in it for wealth and the illusion of power, even though he knows he has none of the latter.

The man's a CIA creation. We don't even know where he was born or where he came from. Just another groomed puppet like Clinton.

Rakovsky: Do you not see that already? In Moscow there is Communism: in New York Capitalism. It is all the same as a thesis and anti-thesis. Analyze both. Moscow is subjective Communism, but Capitalism objective - State Capitalism. New York: Capitalism subjective, but Communism objective. A personal synthesis, truth: the Financial International, the Capitalist-Communist one. "They."

From: Stalin's Formal Communism (Bonapartism) cf Trotsky's Real Communism
And: savethemales.ca - Rothschilds Conduct "Red Symphony"

Communism was set up by the bankers and secret societies as another way to consolidate power and wealth and merge into World Government.
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Old 10-18-2011, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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And by the way, people who were at the U. of Chicago when Obama was supposedly there don't ever even remember seeing the man.

The birth certificates they've tried to come up with have been totally discredited by people with knowledge in those areas. Demolished. The fake certificates are a joke. It's not a coincidence they captured and killed CIA asset Bin Laden for the 10th time the last time the controversy about where he was born came up.

The man is a true manchurian candidate.

I actually feel a little sorry for him, just a little, when he gets a bunch of criticism for things he has nothing to do with. The policies that created the economic and millitary problems this country faces today go waaaaayyyyy above his pay grade of gopher.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Capitalism, is not Corporatism. Lets get that straight right here!

Free market capitalism, is not fascist corporatism.
Thank you, Thank You......
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