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NOW!! I am going to throw up. My fellow Catholics who are probably the one group that deserves the biggest slap on the back for putting Obama in the White House need to go take a shower in Holy Water and get their azzes to confession.
Ugh I need some alka seltzer.
We Catholics are biggest conflicted religious group in history.
NOW!! I am going to throw up. My fellow Catholics who are probably the one group that deserves the biggest slap on the back for putting Obama in the White House need to go take a shower in Holy Water and get their azzes to confession.
Ugh I need some alka seltzer.
We Catholics are biggest conflicted religious group in history.
HAHA! I totally agree. We Catholics are "liberal" but the Church doesn't really like it.
Who cares what states have more or less divorces. What matters is that people all of the United States get divorced and no matter where you live it sucks.
Agreed. Likewise, it's the state of your own marriage you should be concerned about, not someone else's in a "red" or a "blue" state.
Imagine my surprise-- there isn't even gay marriage to degrade "real" marriage in these places!
I mean, is this bizarro world? Massachusetts, which has had gay marriage the longest, is tied at LAST place for divorce, just before DC (which just legalized gay marriage). Meanwhile, Arkansas, which has made gay ADOPTION illegal, never mind gay marriage, is at #2 for divorce!
Anyone care to shed some light on this for me? I'm confused!
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Who cares? Red or Blue, Dem or Republican doesn't mean much considering the mobile society and changes over the past 40 years (or more). Gay or straight, married or divorced, red-neck, or ivory-tower, none of us live in the Constitutional Republic any more. The Supreme Court no longer sticks to its job description while congress and the President are just after their own re-election power. We currently elect the best sociopaths who lie, cheat, and steal without remorse or consequence.
In truth, the National Institute for Healthcare Research says weekly
churchgoers throughout the U.S. are less apt to divorce than people who claim
"no religion" and those who attend religious services less than once a week.
Devout Catholics have especially low divorce rates - apparently because
Catholic parishes often take the responsibility of marriage preparation and
enrichment more seriously than Protestant churches do.
Dude thanks for putting this http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/mar%26div.pdfup and proving that red states just don't seem to value marriage as much as they pretend. Do the math and you will note that, the bible belt has higher % of MARRIAGES ending in divorce, So you just proved yourself wrong in that divorce rate in red states are higher because there are higher number of marriages.
Yeah ! conservatives win again (in hypocracy).
You are also wrong that Blue staters shagin it without getting married.
Guess what Red states continue to win the battle of family values, as they lead in teenage pregnancies yes PREGNANCIES not just births so that you
won't bring the abortion excuse.: Led by Arkansas, and followed by South Dakota. Yep the state whose senator (Thun) accused Dashle of not sharing South Dakotans family values.
But wait it get better, red state also lead in pregnancies out of wedlock,
so much for your theory of blue starters sagging it without getting married.
I won't even go to red states leeching of federal dollars, too easy!
Last edited by bannedgunner; 07-10-2010 at 11:56 PM..
Agreed. Likewise, it's the state of your own marriage you should be concerned about, not someone else's in a "red" or a "blue" state.
Agreed, so why don' conservative for Red state shut the **** up about family values and "LIBERALS FORM NORTHEAST" messing up American's family values, when they are doing a great job of it on their own.
"Marriage, divorce.
What's more easy than that to get statistics."
Oh my gosh!
Statistics is a tool used to interpret data. Data iterpretation has an element of creativity. Statistics unto themselves are pretty much meaningless without proper perspective, analysis plan and data collection integrity.
Statistics like firearms have a great potential for misuse and abuse. To think the stats are 'unloaded' can be fatal.
Try to negate the numbers but X = no. marriages; y = no. divorces.
There is or is not a marriage and there is or is not a divorce.
No almost married, no almost divorced.
Marriages. Divorces.
How do you mess with those numbers.
Please inform me because I don't understand how simple numbers can be interpreted.
There are no other values involved.
Simply numbers of marriages and divorces in individual states.
Gays tend to move to liberal states. Since gay marriage is a relatively new phenomenon, most never married. Most of the poor in liberal states are urban and have mostly rejected marriage altogether, though in conservative states even the poorest, usually in rural areas, get married.
And you learned this how?
Or is it just your opinion?
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Originally Posted by BigHoss14
Idiotic threads like this are pointless. Liberals find whatever they want and twist and turn it into something they can use to bash others.
???
Whaaaat?
Facts suck, don’t they.
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Originally Posted by BigHoss14
Maybe the divorce rate has to do with the fact people don't take marriage as seriously as they should and as seriously as they did 50 years ago.
Apparently most of those who don’t take marriage seriously live in the red states.
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Originally Posted by IdahoMormon
Actually, you're the one missing the point here. There are two ways to measure the divorce rate. The one you're talking about would be the rate of marriages that end in divorce. If that were what the article was talking about, you would be correct, people that didn't get married wouldn't affect the divorce rate at all.
However, the divorce rate referenced in the article is number of divorces per 1000 people each year. For that statistic, more people getting married and getting divorces affects the divorce rate a lot. So yes, if Liberals don't get married, the divorce rate would be very low.
Another way to finagle how you get your figures to make real numbers fit your political views.
The rate would still be the same. They’re basing the stats on base 1000.
[quote=bannedgunner;14987407]Dude thanks for putting this http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/mar%26div.pdfup and proving that red states just don't seem to value marriage as much as they pretend. Do the math and you will note that, the bible belt has higher % of MARRIAGES ending in divorce, So you just proved yourself wrong in that divorce rate in red states are higher because there are higher number of marriages.
Yeah ! conservatives win again (in hypocracy).
You are also wrong that Blue staters shagin it without getting married.
Guess what Red states continue to win the battle of family values, as they lead in teenage pregnancies yes PREGNANCIES not just births so that you
won't bring the abortion excuse.: Led by Arkansas, and followed by South Dakota. Yep the state whose senator (Thun) accused Dashle of not sharing South Dakotans family values.
But wait it get better, red state also lead in pregnancies out of wedlock,
so much for your theory of blue starters sagging it without getting married.
Link?
Marriage and divorce rates by State: 1990, 1995, and 1999-2002
Rates are per 1,000 total population residing in area. Population enumerated as of April 1 for 1990 and 2000 and estimated as of July 1 for all other years]
Marriage rate
(people fly to NV and HI to get married so they are set aside)
NV ....67.4.....7.1.....11
HI ....20.7.....3.7.....17
AR ....14.3.....6.2.....43 TN ....13.1.....5.1.....39 ID ....10.9.....5.3.....49 UT ....10.4.....4.1.....39 AL .....9.8.....5.4.....55
VT .....9.7.....4.2.....43 AK .....8.3.....4.6.....55 WY .....9.5.....5.4.....57
FL .....9.4.....5.1.....54 SC .....9.3.....3.4.....37 KY .....9.0.....5.2.....58 SD .....8.8.....3.3.....37 VA .....8.6.....4.2.....49 TX .....8.4.....3.9.....46
ME .....8.4.....4.6.....54
NH .....8.3.....4.3.....51 WV .....8.1.....5.2.....64
CO .....7.9.....4.7.....59
NM .....7.9.....4.4.....56
RI .....7.7.....3.2.....42 NC .....7.7.....4.5.....58
NE .....7.5.....3.6.....48
NY .....7.3.....3.4.....47 MO .....7.3.....4.0.....54 KS .....7.3.....3.6.....49 MT .....7.2.....4.0.....56
OR .....7.1.....4.6.....65
MD .....7.1.....3.4.....48
OH .....7.0.....4.0.....57 ND .....6.8.....3.0.....44 IA .....6.9.....3.1.....45 AZ .....6.6.....4.7.....71
IL .....6.6.....2.9.....44
WA .....6.5.....4.6.....71
MI .....6.5.....3.8.....58
DE .....6.4.....3.5.....55 MS .....6.4.....4.9.....77
MN .....6.5.....3.1.....48 GA .....6.5.....2.5.....38
MN .....6.5.....3.1.....48
WI .....6.3.....3.2.....51
NJ .....6.0.....3.4.....57
MA .....5.9.....2.5.....42
PA .....5.7.....3.1.....54
Only PA marries less frequently than MA. Sure do see a lot of red states at the top and blue states at the bottom. In fact, the only real exceptions are VT, MS and GA. Other than that, it's pretty much a slam dunk.
Divorce rate...
(the last number is the divorce rate divided by the marriage rate expressed as a percentage)
MS .....6.4.....4.9.....77 AZ .....6.6.....4.7.....71
WA .....6.5.....4.6.....71
OR .....7.1.....4.6.....65 WV .....8.1.....5.2.....64
CO .....7.9.....4.7.....59
CT .....5.7.....3.3.....58
MI .....6.5.....3.8.....58 NC .....7.7.....4.5.....58 KY .....9.0.....5.2.....58
NJ .....6.0.....3.4.....57
OH .....7.0.....4.0.....57 WY .....9.5.....5.4.....57 MT .....7.2.....4.0.....56
NM .....7.9.....4.4.....56 AL .....9.8.....5.4.....55 AK .....8.3.....4.6.....55
DE .....6.4.....3.5.....55
PA .....5.7.....3.1.....54
ME .....8.4.....4.6.....54 MO .....7.3.....4.0.....54
FL .....9.4.....5.1.....54
WI .....6.3.....3.2.....51
NH .....8.3.....4.3.....51 VA .....8.6.....4.2.....49 ID ....10.9.....5.3.....49 KS .....7.3.....3.6.....49
MD .....7.1.....3.4.....48
MN .....6.5.....3.1.....48
NE .....7.5.....3.6.....48
NY .....7.3.....3.4.....47 TX .....8.4.....3.9.....46 IA .....6.9.....3.1.....45
IL .....6.6.....2.9.....44 ND .....6.8.....3.0.....44
VT .....9.7.....4.2.....43 AR ....14.3.....6.2.....43
MA .....5.9.....2.5.....42
RI .....7.7.....3.2.....42 TN ....13.1.....5.1.....39 UT ....10.4.....4.1.....39 GA .....6.5.....2.5.....38 SC .....9.3.....3.4.....37 SD .....8.8.....3.3.....37
HI ....20.7.....3.7.....17
NV ....67.4.....7.1.....11
If the red states have a higher incidence of divorce per marriage, I'm not really seeing it.
Psst!
Women who marry at eighteen and nineteen (for which the South is famous) become pregnant teenagers.
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