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I don't expect anything but extreme groups being elected. Extremism helps candidates win elections. It applies to Israel and Pakistan too. As long as they can show aggression against their "enemies", perceived or not, they stand a better chance to win.
And it ain't surprising that those who would get elected by the Palestianians would be those who they see as revolutionaries/freedom fighters.
Persoanlly what your saying is that israel sghould use its armed military to the full extent needed to secure its security as they see fit. That is what we shgould beutt out really means.Also that the world needs to stop giivg aid to palestinianes to prtolong their ability to continue the fight. I the end just as Obama did one must takes dies as always relly. It idea that you support terrorist that have atrcked your natio is nonsense that they clearly sw the difference in during WWII. Many here would have ignore the nazi's i WWII but most would not have just as those then did not.We were actaully supporting those fightinf aginst the nazi's long before we actauly sent troops.
Actually what butt out means is that we stop all forms of aid to all combatants involved.
By all I mean just that. All financial,political, and medical aid.
Is there any particular reason why you mentioned Pakistan?
Yep. It has been another of our great allies but a failed democracy where it is either military rule or politicians winning on the grounds of how aggressive they are against the arch "enemy" (which, in this case, will be India).
The little stone throwers in the video have too much time on their hands. What an awful way to live. What could be a peaceful neighborhood looks like an insane asylum.
Yep. It has been another of our great allies but a failed democracy where it is either military rule or politicians winning on the grounds of how aggressive they are against the arch "enemy" (which, in this case, will be India).
Well I don't think you can compare Pakistan with Israel. Israel is not a failed democracy.
In any case, not all of the USA's allies have democratic regimes and nor all the countries that the USA helps financially have them either.
Remember Osama Bin Laden was probably trained by the American Government & the CIA originally. Allegations of CIA assistance to Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well I don't think you can compare Pakistan with Israel. Israel is not a failed democracy.
When it comes to democracy, I'm not sure what it entails when it comes to Israel, but that would be just my opinion. Having said that, the comparison drawn was not of democracies but of how aggression plays a role in getting elected to the office. And they were just couple of examples that US closely relates to. It is just as true outside as well, and often here at home too.
On OBL, it wasn't "probably trained". He was trained, and Al Qaeda itself was a term coined by the CIA referring to a database it maintained of Afghan Freedom fighters. American foreign policy needs to be looked at, and it is at the core of this thread.
The Irgun Zvai Leumi & Lehi (which was more extreme group that split off from the Irgun) were extremist groups. The Irgun refused to integrate into the newly former IDF (Israel Defense Forces) which caused violent clashes between the two. See the Altalena Affair: Altalena Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .
So one can't say that the Irgun represented Israel's policy.
However Yitzhak Shamir was an member of Stern group which was eventually renaimed Lehi.
In 1939, when war broke out between Britain and Germany, Avraham Stern, one of the leaders of the Irgun, who had studied in Italy and was an admirer of Mussolini, rejected any support for the British against Germany. But of course an vast majority of Jews in Palestine was opposed to Stern stance on considering some alliance with the Nazis.
Lehi’s which was formed from Stern most notorious action was the assassination of Lord Moyne, the British military commander in Egypt in 1944.
Lehi was commiting terrorist acts on British adgents at that time, and also fellow Jews who collaborated with the British. But of course the British at that time had an policy of forbidding Jews to settle in Palestine.
While Lehi was by far the smallest of the Zionist terrorist groups, the Stern/Lehi group carried out 71 percent of all political assassinations between 1940 and 1948. Nearly half of these were against fellow Jews.
Even after the establishment of the Zionist state, Lehi continued its murderous activities. Hazit Ha’Moledet, the Fatherland Front, a Lehi splinter group that later formed the Moledet party, carried out the assassination of Count Folke Bernadotte, a UN envoy seeking to arrange a peace agreement between Israel and the Arabs.
As Israel wages war against Hezbollah “terrorists” in Lebanon, Britain has protested about the celebration by Israelis of a Jewish “act of terrorism” against British rule 60 years ago this week.
The Israelis, including Benjamin Netanyahu, the former Prime Minister, are commemorating the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, the headquarters of British rule, that killed 92 people and helped to drive the British out of Palestine.
They have erected a plaque outside the restored building, and are holding a two-day seminar with speeches and a tour of the hotel by one of the Jewish resistance fighters involved in the attack.
I bet that plaque does'nt mention the four Jews in the King David hotel who were murdered along with the Brits.
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