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Old 07-06-2010, 02:21 AM
 
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A German man who had a speech by Adolf Hitler as his ringtone and a picture of the Nazi dictator in front of a swastika on his mobile phone could face up to three years in jail, police said on Thursday.

Authorities seized the 54-year-old's phone at Harburg station on Tuesday, near the northern city of Hamburg, after fellow train passengers shocked by the sound of Hitler screaming alerted police.

"It was an original speech by Adolf Hitler which ended with the phrase 'Sieg Heil'," police spokesman Ruediger Carstens told AFP, adding: "He also had a photo of Hitler standing in front of a swastika."

Anyway even though he broke the law in his country. Do you think the laws against any display for Nazism is still justified in Germany today?
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:01 AM
 
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Well, I personally find the law to be stupid. It is basically a form of tyranny. It would be like us passing a law that forbids the confederate flag(although, there are plenty of people that want that law here). Secondly, I don't really understand how the law applies to his phone anyway. It wasn't really a public display of the nazi's or their works.

German faces jail for Adolf Hitler mobile phone ring tone - Telegraph


It really is a shame what happened to the Germany after WWII. They got the sense kicked out of them for sure. And I am sure this part of the constitution was as result of that.
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:17 AM
 
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Quite a few European nations do not have freedom of speech.

Canada does but has an exception to it....
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:24 AM
 
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A German man who had a speech by Adolf Hitler as his ringtone and a picture of the Nazi dictator in front of a swastika on his mobile phone could face up to three years in jail, police said on Thursday.

Authorities seized the 54-year-old's phone at Harburg station on Tuesday, near the northern city of Hamburg, after fellow train passengers shocked by the sound of Hitler screaming alerted police.

"It was an original speech by Adolf Hitler which ended with the phrase 'Sieg Heil'," police spokesman Ruediger Carstens told AFP, adding: "He also had a photo of Hitler standing in front of a swastika."

Anyway even though he broke the law in his country. Do you think the laws against any display for Nazism is still justified in Germany today?
Yes, absolutely.
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:39 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Just goes to show how the USA takes our inalienable rights for granted.
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:50 AM
 
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Well, I personally find the law to be stupid. It is basically a form of tyranny. It would be like us passing a law that forbids the confederate flag(although, there are plenty of people that want that law here). Secondly, I don't really understand how the law applies to his phone anyway. It wasn't really a public display of the nazi's or their works.

German faces jail for Adolf Hitler mobile phone ring tone - Telegraph


It really is a shame what happened to the Germany after WWII. They got the sense kicked out of them for sure. And I am sure this part of the constitution was as result of that.
Not really a shame. Not really a "stupid" law. Key words "horrors of fascism and the Holocaust"

"More than 60 years after the end of World War II, the horrors of fascism and the Holocaust remain etched in Germany's collective consciousness."

"Germany's post-World War II constitution, written in 1949, set out to ensure that a democratic system would be able to defend itself against forces hostile to democracy. The Grundgesetz guarantees basic rights like freedom of assembly and freedom of speech, but it also gives the state the power to ban organizations that threaten the democratic order. Clauses prohibiting the use of symbols which violate the constitution, including Nazi symbols, were added to the German penal code in 1960."

Read more: The Curious Case of the Nazi Gnome - TIME
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:25 AM
 
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I wonder if Japan. today, has similar constraints on speech as a result of WWII.
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:35 AM
 
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A German man who had a speech by Adolf Hitler as his ringtone and a picture of the Nazi dictator in front of a swastika on his mobile phone could face up to three years in jail, police said on Thursday.

Authorities seized the 54-year-old's phone at Harburg station on Tuesday, near the northern city of Hamburg, after fellow train passengers shocked by the sound of Hitler screaming alerted police.

"It was an original speech by Adolf Hitler which ended with the phrase 'Sieg Heil'," police spokesman Ruediger Carstens told AFP, adding: "He also had a photo of Hitler standing in front of a swastika."

Anyway even though he broke the law in his country. Do you think the laws against any display for Nazism is still justified in Germany today?
They should throw the book at him for having to listen to his stupid phone in public. Public transportation should be cell phone free zones. But as far as the content goes, at least Germany enforces its laws. There is no "justified" issue. If they don't like the law, change the law.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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I wonder if Japan. today, has similar constraints on speech as a result of WWII.
No. While the Germans have a hard time getting past the years of the Third Reich, the Japanese tend to gloss over the horrors of Showa Japan.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:55 AM
 
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Ignorant law. The masters of Europe still have my homeland in slavery I see.
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