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View Poll Results: Should creationism be taught in public schools?
Yes 71 19.09%
No 295 79.30%
I don't know/No opinion 6 1.61%
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Unread 08-02-2010, 09:28 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
You can teach your creation myth as fact in Sunday school.
So your myth is ok, but you don't want anyone else's "myth" being taught? Or that there is even a possibility of your myth not being true?

 
Unread 08-02-2010, 09:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
You can teach your creation myth as fact in Sunday school.
There is the appropriate place for dogmatic teaching, not in a fact-based environs such as educational institutes, which are for teaching of facts and theories, but not teach dogma as fact.
 
Unread 08-02-2010, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Sydney
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Originally Posted by Calvinist View Post
So your myth is ok, but you don't want anyone else's "myth" being taught? Or that there is even a possibility of your myth not being true?
The Australian Aborigines have a fascinating creation myth which apparently is more than 40,000 years old. Are you happy with that being taught next to yours?

http://www.upfromaustralia.com/dreamabstoro.html

http://www.cs.williams.edu/~lindsey/myths/myths_13.html
 
Unread 08-02-2010, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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So your myth is ok, but you don't want anyone else's "myth" being taught? Or that there is even a possibility of your myth not being true?
What myth are you referring to?

Huge difference between saying that evolution occurs, and saying that the Earth was created in 7 days by an invisible child deity.
 
Unread 08-02-2010, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So your myth is ok, but you don't want anyone else's "myth" being taught? Or that there is even a possibility of your myth not being true?

Tell me more about this myth of mine that you speak of.
 
Unread 08-02-2010, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Texas
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There is the appropriate place for dogmatic teaching, not in a fact-based environs such as educational institutes, which are for teaching of facts and theories, but not teach dogma as fact.

So, we're in agreement.
 
Unread 08-02-2010, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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So your myth is ok, but you don't want anyone else's "myth" being taught? Or that there is even a possibility of your myth not being true?
We're not trying to teach myths.

Just proven scientific facts.
 
Unread 08-03-2010, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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How is that Scientific Theory of Creation coming along? Last I heard, not so well. So until then......probably not up to the task.
 
Unread 08-03-2010, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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How is that Scientific Theory of Creation coming along? Last I heard, not so well. So until then......probably not up to the task.
More importantly, there are no tenets of creationism that can be used and applied in the laboratory or to further research, create medicines, cure disease...evolution-based science does just that.

But you won't find the bangers addressing this point. Not a one of them has been able to give me a reason for or the point of teaching their mythology in school (outside of cultural studies class).
 
Unread 08-04-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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This is telling.

Creationists hijack lessons and teach schoolkids man and dinosaurs walked together | News.com.au

Quote:
| Students have been told Noah collected dinosaur eggs to
| bring on the Ark, and Adam and Eve were not eaten by
| dinosaurs because they were under a protective spell.
|
| Set Free Christian Church's Tim McKenzie said when
| students questioned him why dinosaur fossils carbon
| dated as earlier than man, he replied that the great
| flood must have skewed the data.
|
| A parent of a Year 5 student on the Sunshine Coast said
| his daughter was ostracised to the library after arguing
| with her scripture teacher about DNA.
|
| "The scripture teacher told the class that all people were
| descended from Adam and Eve," he said.
|
| "My daughter rightly pointed out, as I had been teaching
| her about DNA and science, that 'wouldn't they all be
| inbred'?
|
| "But the teacher replied that DNA wasn't invented then."
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