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View Poll Results: Should creationism be taught in public schools?
Yes 71 19.09%
No 295 79.30%
I don't know/No opinion 6 1.61%
Voters: 372. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-21-2010, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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^mutant.

 
Old 12-21-2010, 03:16 PM
 
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Since most scientists today agree the idea of abiogenesis is impossible, the only alternative way life started is creation. To teach that it isn't at least a possibility is just plain dopey.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I don't know if you are a creationist or not, but I do know that you do not understand the meaning of the word theory in the context of science, nor do you understand evolution.

For instance...What do you call this? Snake or lizard, or perhaps a living transitional?
No, I'm not a creationist, unless some super evolved space alien mixed us all up in a lab, and seeded the planet.

What separates a snake from a lizard, not a whole hell of a lot.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Since most scientists today agree the idea of abiogenesis is impossible
You of course have a source for this, correct?

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the only alternative way life started is creation. To teach that it isn't at least a possibility is just plain dopey.
No, what's plain dopey is saying "Well, if this isn't true, then the alternative must be!" rather than trying to find alternatives.

Creationism has no basis in science, therefore should never be taught as such.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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No, it is because there isn't any. It's acceptable as a "theory" as something that may have possibly happened. I don't have a problem with the possibility that it happened, but I see no evidence or proof of it.
Then you don't know what theory means as in a Scientific Theory, and I don't know how many times I have explained this to you. You think it is a mere guess, and equal in merit with any other conceived possibility without regard to physical evidence. That is NOT a Scientific Theory.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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It is a guess.

When it becomes proved, if your vaunted scientists ever manage to "prove" anything, I'll give it more credence.

Chemists, by the way, are more rational than evolutionists or meteorologists.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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^mutant.
No, it's not a mutant...It is a member of an entire species.

Evolution in action: Scientists discover lizards on verge of leap from egg-laying to live births « Xenophilia (True Strange Stuff)
 
Old 12-21-2010, 03:26 PM
 
Location: California
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There is nothing to teach. If scientific methods can't be used, and you flat out reject evolution, then it's pretty much a "we don't know" kind of thing. Even if you choose to replace the "we don't know" with "god did it" that pretty much ends all discussion anyway since you can't do experiments or study stuff or anything.

This debate cracks me up.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 03:31 PM
 
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Since most scientists today agree the idea of abiogenesis is impossible, the only alternative way life started is creation. To teach that it isn't at least a possibility is just plain dopey.
It all comes back to this: who created the Creator?

If abiogenesis is impossible, then how did we get a Creator?
 
Old 12-21-2010, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You of course have a source for this, correct?

No, what's plain dopey is saying "Well, if this isn't true, then the alternative must be!" rather than trying to find alternatives.

Creationism has no basis in science, therefore should never be taught as such.
Where did the basic elements come from, that allowed for the creation of matter? Eventually we get to a point where we are all to stupid to lay claim to the answer, and then some fool on the internet will call us out as an idiot, that just doesn't get it.

The only point I was trying to make, was that i think some species of life on this planet can only involve into something else along their specific line. As I said, an insect evolving in its own way, but never being anything else but an insect, and a plant never being anything else but a plant. I think that when there is a split in the evolutionary tree, there is no going back, or am i wrong?
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