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Old 07-08-2010, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Now you're just talking in circles. I give up.
Read the thread from the first page.
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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No, going to the office and getting an exam is the "best practice". Also taking a history. Women who smoke are at far greater risk of stroke from the pill. The doc ought to know if the pt. has started smoking.
While I agree with you that getting an exam is the "best practice", I can tell you from personal experience, the fictional Dr. House is right; people lie. I smoked the entire time I was on oral contraceptives and most of the time I told the doctor I didn't. Even after age 35.

(FTR, I haven't been on oral contraceptives for 8 years, and quit smoking 8 years ago, as well. Go figure.)
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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While I agree with you that getting an exam is the "best practice", I can tell you from personal experience, the fictional Dr. House is right; people lie. I smoked the entire time I was on oral contraceptives and most of the time I told the doctor I didn't. Even after age 35.

(FTR, I haven't been on oral contraceptives for 8 years, and quit smoking 8 years ago, as well. Go figure.)
I'm well aware that patients lie. At least if they go to the dr. they'll get the info that smoking and the pill don't mix. Then they can make a personal decision. Glad you quit smoking. So did I.
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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If people think it would be ok to buy hormones OTC without seeing a doctor first than they should have no problem with people that want to change or alter their gender by getting hormones OTC. They should also have no problem with selling hormones OTC to people that want to bulk up their muscle mass.

Counter that.
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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I'm well aware that patients lie. At least if they go to the dr. they'll get the info that smoking and the pill don't mix. Then they can make a personal decision. Glad you quit smoking. So did I.
Maybe they'll get that info. See my post #35 (and forgive the length). That's why I advocate teaching it in a comprehensive sex education class that every student should be required to take. Not that I trust teachers any more than doctors to be thorough in their dissemination of pertinent information, but at least there's a chance that if they don't get it from one, they'll get it from the other.

I guess I'm lucky, though. The greatest lesson I have ever learned in my entire life was that dang-nabbed "read everything before doing anything" test that my 5th grade teacher handed out to the class, and which I humiliatingly failed (along with 98% of my classmates, as well). That's one of the reasons I always read the package inserts on all my medication.
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:53 PM
 
Location: California
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No, going to the office and getting an exam is the "best practice". Also taking a history. Women who smoke are at far greater risk of stroke from the pill. The doc ought to know if the pt. has started smoking.
That may be true of anyone the first time they are prescribed a drug, it's the ongoing use that can make seeing the Dr redundant.
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:54 PM
 
Location: California
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If people think it would be ok to buy hormones OTC without seeing a doctor first than they should have no problem with people that want to change or alter their gender by getting hormones OTC. They should also have no problem with selling hormones OTC to people that want to bulk up their muscle mass.

Counter that.
There is nothing to counter. It's off topic. But if you really think that then start a thread and promote your beliefs.
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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That may be true of anyone the first time they are prescribed a drug, it's the ongoing use that can make seeing the Dr redundant.
Your history changes, your health status changes, medicine changes. If not annually, a woman should at least see a doc every two years for BCP.
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:56 PM
 
Location: MI
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No they should be given freely everywhere.
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:58 PM
 
Location: California
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Your history changes, your health status changes, medicine changes. If not annually, a woman should at least see a doc every two years for BCP.
Everyone should see a Dr at some regular interval. BCP doesn't add risk that isn't already there OTC.
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