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Old 07-10-2010, 07:02 PM
 
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He's a Social Democrat. HELLO !
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Old 07-10-2010, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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He's a gosh darn commie and a socialist. At least that's what my brother Darryl say's. And my other brother Darryl agrees.
They ain't had much regular schoolin, and there both married to the same cousin, but thank the lord there against abortion. If we had to go with them gol'dern liberal laws about rape and incest, nobody down here wood even have a family.
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Old 07-10-2010, 07:32 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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a fact made painfully obvious during town halls and tea bag parties.
I didn't realize you attended them.

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I think we are jumping the gun to say President Obama is a socialist.

1. The effective merger of big government and big business is closer to fascism, not socialism. The auto buyout, the subjugation of the insurance companies and health care providers to government control, the "pay czar" and really ALL the czars over different lines of business, the extra-legal orders given to business (warnings to not speak up for their interests, the BP treatment, warnings to health insurers to spend capital instead of raising premiums that are necessary to cover claims)--all these things speak to a desire for government to control business while leaving hypothetical ownership in the hands of stockholders, but with far less rights.

2. Socialism implies that "the people" will benefit equally. Yet in policy after policy, most workers get shafted and union members are the winners. I don't know if we have a word to describe attempted control of the country by a minority of workers who are union.

All we know for sure is that President Obey-me is anti-capitalist. It is too early to tell (and hopefully after November we will never find out) if "socialist" or "fascist" is a better description. Certainly "autocrat" is a term that comes to mind, given the willingness to attack supreme court decisions and to subvert congressional action as with the recess appointments.

As long as elections happen on schedule, without armed thugs patrolling the polling places to an extent that changes outcomes, and absent massive fraud, "dictator" is definitely too extreme.
1. "Hypothetical ownership" is problematic, is it not? It's either ownership with all the risks, rights and responsibilities, or it's not. I don't much relish ownership of risk without the right to profit. Maybe I misunderstand your term of hypothetical ownership?

2. The plan is for all the people to be brought to the same level. Wealth for some will be reduced so that for others it can be increased. It is not only a domestic goal here at home -- but a global goal -- for all to be on an equal level. The federal government is now and will be the largest employer in the country, and those employees will be unionized. If card check is passed, it will pave the way for growth of unions in the private sector, bringing a host of problems with it. Unionized workers will become the majority.

Which is preferable: socialist or fascist? They're twins with the same genetic code and in this case there is no single "evil twin". They both are evil.

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But according to you, the rest of the participants in the poll do. Now that's valid interpretation!
Jumping to conclusions? You won't find that anywhere. That's your interpretation. But, I'm not surprised.
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Old 07-10-2010, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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How many people say he is NOT a strong leader?

Picked out things? The whole poll is an absolute disaster for him.
I guess if that's how you want to see it. I don't know maybe if the numbers had been overwhelming one way but a lot of them were right above 50%...I mean 51% versus 49% isn't exactly an uprising and considering that this poll doesn't represent anything other than the opinions of the people who voted and not the country as a whole I'm not going to flip out.

Where do they conduct these polls? You post one every 15 minutes so I'm assuming they do them often, but I've never been asked....I wanna be polled
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Old 07-10-2010, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I guess if that's how you want to see it. I don't know maybe if the numbers had been overwhelming one way but a lot of them were right above 50%...I mean 51% versus 49% isn't exactly an uprising and considering that this poll doesn't represent anything other than the opinions of the people who voted and not the country as a whole I'm not going to flip out.

Where do they conduct these polls? You post one every 15 minutes so I'm assuming they do them often, but I've never been asked....I wanna be polled
The point, since you missed it, is that he's underwater throughout the poll. This poll is absolutely devastating, but don't believe me, just read what other dems think about it.

Every 15 minutes, huh?
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Old 07-10-2010, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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The point, since you missed it, is that he's underwater throughout the poll. This poll is absolutely devastating, but don't believe me, just read what other dems think about it.

Every 15 minutes, huh?
I read what other people think. That doesn't mean I have to agree with what they think. Ok you feel the pool was absolutely devastating. I don't. I'm sorry if that bothers you.

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Every 15 minutes, huh?
You're right. Every 10...what was I thinking
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Old 07-10-2010, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I read what other people think. That doesn't mean I have to agree with what they think. Ok you feel the pool was absolutely devastating. I don't. I'm sorry if that bothers you.



You're right. Every 10...what was I thinking
Of course, you have nothing to back that up with.

I don't know if the pool was devastating, but the poll certainly was. I mean really, just open the eyes and LOOK at those numbers. He can't manage a majority on any of the positive qualities listed by the pollster. I bet James would be pulling his hair out right now, if he had any.

BTW, this poll has a partisan gap of 35-31 advantage to the democrats and still, the numbers are very, very bad....which is a good, good, thing.
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Old 07-10-2010, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Of course, you have nothing to back that up with.

I don't know if the pool was devastating, but the poll certainly was. I mean really, just open the eyes and LOOK at those numbers. He can't manage a majority on any of the positive qualities listed by the pollster. I bet James would be pulling his hair out right now, if he had any.

BTW, this poll has a partisan gap of 35-31 advantage to the democrats and still, the numbers are very, very bad....which is a good, good, thing.
Oh a typo! I made a typo! You got me on smart one! I concede to your superior intellect.
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