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Old 07-09-2010, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Do you think the news shows didnt report anything on this? Do you think they didnt interview Byrd once? There for there would be footage. Do you think there is no newspaper articles on it? Do you think there is no audio some place? Do you think there is NO News Footage of anything about this?
That's not what your bud Glenn was alleging.
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:29 AM
 
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Did you see anything on MSNBC about how much pork he took home over the years. Like the fact that they had 4 miles of four lane highways in WV when he took office and over 1000 when he passed on? That is a whole lot of pork since WV is not a very large state and too mountainous for too many of of them.
If you've ever driven through there you can see that the 1000 miles of highway put in and maintained over the years were really, really necessary. They look good and are in sensible locations. They dont qualify as pork by any means. A thousand miles of highway isn't that much -- ten 100s, 100 tens. I think he also had dams put in as well, and might have cleaned up after the coal companies some.

Not to say he didnt bring in the pork to WV, but the highways and dams were a great investment. Even if they are socialistic, lol
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:32 AM
 
Location: North America
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Has NOTHING to do with the media today not reporting on his role in the civil rights movement or his membership to the KKK

I am sure there is an old newspaper on something some where some type of footage that covered Byrds role in the civil rights movement considering he lead the filibuster.


It did, Jadex, Beck was wrong.
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Do you think the news shows didnt report anything on this? Do you think they didnt interview Byrd once? There for there would be footage. Do you think there is no newspaper articles on it? Do you think there is no audio some place? Do you think there is NO News Footage of anything about this?
I'm sure there are newspaper articles, etc. detailing Sen. Byrd's actions. However, as per Mr. Beck, they weren't looking for newspaper articles or audio tapes, now, were they? And, even if there are old reels of news footage somewhere, they wouldn't show anything that occurred in the chamber, since, as has been repeatedly pointed out, cameras were not allowed in the chamber during normal senate business. Mr. Beck clearly states that he wants to see the video of the filibuster. It doesn't matter how you slice it, he's wrong on this one, and, is doubtless trying to create a conspiracy where none exists.


Yes, there were cameras around during the McCarthy hearings, just as there were during Watergate, however, those were completely different situations, as was noted by Mr. Olbermann as per the OP's link. Seems that Mr. Olbermann's research team is a little more, shall we say, adept, than Mr. Beck's.

"Olbermann: Live television coverage of the Senate floor didn’t begin until June 2, 1986. T.V. cameras were not permitted onto the Senate floor until Dec. 1974 and were then used only to broadcast the swearing in of Vice President Rockefeller. Prior to that T.V. or film cameras were never permitted on the Senate floor, only occasionally in committee hearing rooms. No cameras as the Civil Rights Act debate of 1964."
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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So I need to ask:

What does the Right want here?

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that they are right, and that MSM completely ignored Byrd. So what? The press is not a government entity and they owe no one anything. I can't believe that FOX news supporters need to have this explained to them...

How RIDICULOUS. I guess they want state-owned media, as in Russia and China?
What I think they want is for there to be some great conspiracy to cover-up the fact that the longest serving Democratic senator was in his youth a bigot and throughout his career, one of the biggest providers of pork to his home state.
I suppose that they are looking at this through their own cloudy lenses, thinking that because they would make every effort to cover-up similar realities about their own elected officials, Democrats should do the same.

What they've never understood is that the Democratic party is not some sort of fascist regime that requires its members to swear on the immortal soul of some designated icon (see Ronald Reagan) or fill out a party sanctioned check-list in order to be a card-holding member. Everything is black and white for them - there is no personal growth, no maturation, no recognition that people and institutions evolve over the years, unless you are one of 'them'.

I am amazed that they embrace Mr. Beck so fervently now - I really would have thought that his past cocaine use would have been a total deal-breaker. But, as we've seen in so many other situations (Gov. Sanford...) the rules are just different for people who espouse the same beliefs.
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:53 AM
 
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What I think they want is for there to be some great conspiracy to cover-up the fact that the longest serving Democratic senator was in his youth a bigot and throughout his career, one of the biggest providers of pork to his home state.
I suppose that they are looking at this through their own cloudy lenses, thinking that because they would make every effort to cover-up similar realities about their own elected officials, Democrats should do the same.

What they've never understood is that the Democratic party is not some sort of fascist regime that requires its members to swear on the immortal soul of some designated icon (see Ronald Reagan) or fill out a party sanctioned check-list in order to be a card-holding member. Everything is black and white for them - there is no personal growth, no maturation, no recognition that people and institutions evolve over the years, unless you are one of 'them'.

I am amazed that they embrace Mr. Beck so fervently now - I really would have thought that his past cocaine use would have been a total deal-breaker. But, as we've seen in so many other situations (Gov. Sanford...) the rules are just different for people who espouse the same beliefs.
Exactly!

I wish I could rep you again but I guess I must have recently because it's not allowing it.

Any way, kudos for a great post which really sums up nicely what I suspect, as well.
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Old 07-09-2010, 12:07 PM
 
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--really nailed, I mean. Olberman showed a clip of Beck ranting and raving about an alleged lack of balanced media coverage concerning the recently-deceased Senator Robert Byrd's personal history. Why, Beck asks earnestly (with an earnestness that only Beck can feign so expertly), were there no film or tape clips of Byrd filibustering against the Civil Rights Bill when that legislation was before the U.S. Senate? Why did the mainstream media neglect to show some of that historic coverage? Beck asserted that he and his staff (obviously of equally incompetent morons) had looked hard for evidence of any such footage being shown by the evil "mainstream media," and had found absolutely none. None!!

Why would Beck & Co. have failed to find any such thing? Could it be, asked Olbermann, because in the era when civil rights legislation was before the U.S. Congress, NO CAMERAS WERE PERMITTED IN THE CHAMBERS OF EITHER THE HOUSE OR SENATE DURING THE PROCEEDINGS OF THOSE BODIES??!! That being the case, no "mainstream media" or any other media could have found any footage of the filibustering Byrd or of any other person in the Senate speaking on any other subject whatsoever during any session of that body!

Glenn Beck--more moronic blithering! - Topic Florence, AL (http://forums.timesdaily.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6501027316/m/639100001/r/850101001 - broken link)
I guess according to you and Olbermanns argument, slavery didnt exist because there was no video cameras at the time to prove otherwise. Yeah, you showed us.. haha..
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Old 07-09-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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I guess according to you and Olbermanns argument, slavery didnt exist because there was no video cameras at the time to prove otherwise. Yeah, you showed us.. haha..
Beck didnt claim there were.
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Old 07-09-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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It did, Jadex, Beck was wrong.
The media did not cover the involvement in the KKK, and Democrats went out of their way to make excuses for his membership. Clinton himself stated that he was doing it only to get elected.. Ooh that makes it ook...
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Old 07-09-2010, 12:12 PM
 
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Beck didnt claim there were.
Beck claimed they werent, he was accurate.. This is really where you get your news from? Olbermann? Ooh brother..
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