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Old 02-19-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Hatians have turned Haiti into a craphole...why would we want to annex them? We already have Detroit and East LA.

 
Old 02-20-2014, 01:07 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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While I myself am a staunch and passionate supporter of continued U.S. expansionism, I am tempted to say No to this for now? Why? Because Haiti is currently dirt-poor. That's pretty much the gist of it. Once Haiti becomes much wealthier, I would probably respond "Heck Yes!" to this question. Until then, not so much.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 05:39 AM
 
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Hatiains are for it. There is a big surprise. Leach off the U.S some more. Just another typical predicament that island was once a nice place and now that is turned back over to the original inhabitants it looks like animals live there. Bout right I guess.
The "original inhabitants" of Haiti have been dead for centuries. The French and Spanish killed them off.

And when was it a nice place? It's been plagued by nothing but trouble for well over 200 years.
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"The US should annex Haiti"

We've been there, done that which is part of the present problem.
Correct. If we were ever gonna meddle in their affairs, it should've been when they asked us for help against the French.

But no...couldn't help black people against Europeans.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 05:41 AM
 
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Hatians have turned Haiti into a craphole...why would we want to annex them? We already have Detroit and East LA.
Not to mention Idaho.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 05:44 AM
 
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How many billions a month will these new citizens require for SNAP, healthcare and housing assistance?

The big problem with Haiti is that they are 1/3rd the size of Ireland and have 50% more people.

How about we airdrop condoms and birthcontrol pills on them for 70 years and then reconsider absorbing a 3rd world country into our ranks?
On a Catholic country? Good luck.

BTW...they didn't show up to Haiti as Catholics...did they.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 06:06 AM
 
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The "original inhabitants" of Haiti have been dead for centuries. The French and Spanish killed them off.

And when was it a nice place? It's been plagued by nothing but trouble for well over 200 years.


Correct. If we were ever gonna meddle in their affairs, it should've been when they asked us for help against the French.

But no...couldn't help black people against Europeans.
We did. It's called Liberia. It was never taken over by a European country since it started. Tho Liberia still has Jim Crow: white people CAN'T get citizenship there.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 06:14 AM
 
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Haiti? Good god no.

One only has to look at a Satellite image of the DR and Haiti, both of whom share the same Island, to see the root of Haiti's problems comes from a lack of anything even closely resembling management skills:




(DR on the right, Haiti on the left).


Frankly, Haiti probably would do well ceding control and management of its governmental functions to some multi-national committee or something for a set amount of time - maybe 10 years. Haitian leaders can be trained during that time in management skills and good governance.

American-educated Haitians could also think about going to help bring the country into the 21st century, using the superior educations and resources they have found in the US to help out those on the Island.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 06:17 AM
 
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Haiti? Good god no.

One only has to look at a Satellite image of the DR and Haiti, both of whom share the same Island, to see the root of Haiti's problems comes from a lack of anything even closely resembling management skills:




(DR on the right, Haiti on the left).


Frankly, Haiti probably would do well ceding control and management of its governmental functions to some multi-national committee or something for a set amount of time - maybe 10 years. Haitian leaders can be trained during that time in management skills and good governance.

American-educated Haitians could also think about going to help bring the country into the 21st century, using the superior educations and resources they have found in the US to help out those on the Island.
Most Haitian American communities (probably all Haitian American communities in fact) have their own avalanche of problems. Don't see how they could possibly go about helping Haiti when a huge percentage of them don't even bother to help themselves.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Southwest Michigan/Miami Beach Miami
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Hows about we start worrying about the folks that live here, and the land and resources we have, instead of worrying about annexing other countries.

No, we shouldn't annex Haiti.
Agreed.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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I guess that many Americans don't know this historical fact.

The United States occupied Haiti from 1915 to 1934, with the USMC being the national Police force, and they ran the country. Here is a link to that fact.

US Occupation of Haiti, 1915-1934

Here is a link to a list of all the countries that the US has invaded, with military force, in Latin America, in the 20th century. It is a long list.

History of U.S. Interventions in Latin America

Is it any wonder that other countries are wary of American intentions ?

Jim B.

Toronto.
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