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Old 07-15-2010, 07:34 AM
 
Location: NJ
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The Lockerbie bomber, diagnosed with terminal prostate cancer in Great Britian, had a prognosis, based on current medical standards, of 3 months to live. Move that same patient to the US or Libya and his life is extended to 10 years.

I think this illustrates the failure of healthcare systems such as exist in GB, and coming soon to the US, rather than behind the scenes political maneuvering.

If so, the current media discussion is missing the elephant in the room and instead finds itself an organ of hysterical politics.

Could it be?
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:53 PM
 
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I think a lot of us would like to see him change his healthcare provider to Dr. Kevorkian!
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:11 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Default healthcare made a difference?

Amen to that!

This post is more about healthcare than the despicable scum bomber. I find it amazing that in a country with a healthcare system with such a high death rate from prostate cancer that it is not a wonder other terminal suffers given access to treatment available in the US, would also have a prolonged life.

So slimeball politics or just poor healthcare made the diff bewteeen 3mos and 10yrs?
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:13 PM
 
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This guy should not be breathing.
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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I think a lot of us would like to see him change his healthcare provider to Dr. Kevorkian!
+1 AGREED!
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:20 PM
 
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But was he even the guilty guy? Easy for Quadafi to pin the blame on some nobody. The Saudis did it to us over the Khobar tower bombings--executed 4 guys that some sources said where actually political prisoners and had nothing to do with the bombings--and our helpful ally refused FBI interviews with the condemned. Where do we stand? After a decade in the Middle East, the number of fluent speakers in our military is nil. That should tell everyone how committed our government is towards finding a resolution.

None, that is. As long as the money flows for drones, contractors and other hangers-on, we will never be done with our wars.
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:02 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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The Lockerbie bomber, diagnosed with terminal prostate cancer in Great Britian, had a prognosis, based on current medical standards, of 3 months to live. Move that same patient to the US or Libya and his life is extended to 10 years.

I think this illustrates the failure of healthcare systems such as exist in GB, and coming soon to the US, rather than behind the scenes political maneuvering.

If so, the current media discussion is missing the elephant in the room and instead finds itself an organ of hysterical politics.

Could it be?
Really? This has nothing to do with healthcare and everything to do with politics.

Doctors in the UK are not stupid, and patients do not magically live longer when they move to Lybia - don't kid yourself.

When they give you a prognosis, they give you a range of likely outcomes based on historical statistical probabilities. If you look at the worst range of that, it could have been 3 months. That doesn't mean it is the most likely outcome.

But then some do-gooder politicians get their hands on the situation and decide to take that snippet of the medical data and twist it into an excuse to let the guy go. And so they get their way and do it. It has nothing to do with the actual health of the guy and everything to do with politics.
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:26 AM
 
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Read in the paper today that there are investigations that BP may have pressured Scotland to release the Lockerbie bomber in order to secure a contract with Libya. The 3 months may have been exaggerated or falsified in order to allow him to leave on compassionate grounds. Will see what happens
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