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Anyway...I am telling you how HUMAN NATURE manifest. I am not saying that it is right or wrong....I am saying that it is a PREDICTABLE reaction that will manifest from CENTURIES of one race abusing, denigrating and oppressing another race of people. All I am saying is that ACTIONS beget REACTIONS. This is what you keep ignoring. Unless you can repudiate the fundemental law of nature of actions and reactions.....then you cannot repudiate my thesis as much as you try. Whites created enmity in the way they treated black people for centuries. The people you need to blame are the whites who set off this reaction. Moreover, black folks attack and kill black folks everyday. I have been jumped and mugged and called a "Black mutha fu" by other blacks because of my darker skin. They did not attack me because my skin was darker....they attacked me because they wanted something I had.....they just attmepted to denigrate me by making fun of my dark skin tone.
Its wrong, I know its wrong. I believe you do as well.
I said McNichols so that anyone local knew what part of 6 mile I was on. When it loses the number, and gets the name, you're in bad territory.
Its still racism, anyway you look at it. Regardless of the "reasoning" behind it, its wrong, and should be spoken out against.
Its wrong, I know its wrong. I believe you do as well.
I said McNichols so that anyone local knew what part of 6 mile I was on. When it loses the number, and gets the name, you're in bad territory.
Its still racism, anyway you look at it. Regardless of the "reasoning" behind it, its wrong, and should be spoken out against.
I know that there are black folks that don't like white folks. However, in truth, 3 white guys standing on 6 mile mile and L could be thought as being "under cover". Sometimes groups of thugs "own" corners and streets. The thing that you need to remember is that when you, as a white person, enter an area of high crime, where people are shot, robbed, assaulted and the like, all black on black because that is who lives there, don't think you being victimized is automatically due to you being whites. Its not like crime and violence is on standby in such communities.......until 3 white guys come and stand on a corner......and 3 AM.....lol. If you ask me....you were asking to get shot at. Hell.....I might have shot at you just to scare you enough to stop being so idiotic. Trust me....the vast majority of black folks in Brightmore will not be standing on a street corner at 3 AM....and they are BLACK...lol
Ahhh....but when it looses its number and gets the name the community goes from WHITE to BLACK. So when its WHITE its GOOD and when its BLACK....its bad. Gotcha....and you wonder why black folks don't like white folks with thinking like that?
I know that there are black folks that don't like white folks. However, in truth, 3 white guys standing on 6 mile mile and L could be thought as being "under cover". Sometimes groups of thugs "own" corners and streets. The thing that you need to remember is that when you, as a white person, enter an area of high crime, where people are shot, robbed, assaulted and the like, all black on black because that is who lives there, don't think you being victimized is automatically due to you being whites. Its not like crime and violence is on standby in such communities.......until 3 white guys come and stand on a corner......and 3 AM.....lol. If you ask me....you were asking to get shot at. Hell.....I might have shot at you just to scare you enough to stop being so idiotic. Trust me....the vast majority of black folks in Brightmore will not be standing on a street corner at 3 AM....and they are BLACK...lol
You might not have been asking for it....but people get shot at.....black people.......in Detroit all the time. Its amazing how when whites come to the city and become "victimized" they automatically assume its because they are white. Let me just ask you a question? Is Detroits high crime rate the result of black on white violence? hey....equal opportunity my brother...equal opportunity. You should have just as much opportunity to be a crime victim as the rest of the black folks in the city do.
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Ahhh....but when it looses its number and gets the name the community goes from WHITE to BLACK. So when its WHITE its GOOD and when its BLACK....its bad. Gotcha....and you wonder why black folks don't like white folks with thinking like that?
You might not have been asking for it....but people get shot at.....black people.......in Detroit all the time. Its amazing how when whites come to the city and become "victimized" they automatically assume its because they are white. Let me just ask you a question? Is Detroits high crime rate the result of black on white violence?
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Ahhh....but when it looses its number and gets the name the community goes from WHITE to BLACK. So when its WHITE its GOOD and when its BLACK....its bad. Gotcha....and you wonder why black folks don't like white folks with thinking like that?
There are lots of neighborhoods in the corridor that are nice. Its like driving through the twilight zone. Nice big pretty houses, yards well taken care of, nice cars in the drive ways, then pow, boarded windows, burnt out shells, hookers on the corner, etc.
Its not a black or white thing, its racists standing on the corner, and yelling racist things at people.
If a black telephone worker was standing on a corner, and working on something, and some white guys started yelling racial slurs at him, it would be no different. He pays taxes, he is providing a service. He has just as much a right to be there as anyone else.
You said that I was asking for it for standing on a street corner in a bad neighborhood at 3am. I'm not asking for anything, I'm asking to do my job, which they want me to do so their damn phones will work.
I'm done with this now. Its obvious you're being an apologist, and thats just wrong. As I said, there are racists on both sides. The sooner ANYONE stops taking up, or making excuses for them, the better off we'll be, and the sooner we'll get this issue behind us as a country, and a species.
I was born in 1967 just outside of Detroit. While I remember the majority of people being white, I frequently came into contact with Blacks as well.
I am too young to remember the civil rights stuff that went on prior to my birth, but I remember when Affirmative Action was a hot button issue. For a while, it seemed that the issue of racism died down. People kind of just accepted each other and for the most part had the attitude that we were largely living in post racial times. These were times in which most began to see the folly of these Affirmative Action programs and a major court decision regarding race preferences at U of M were stricken down by the court on Constitutional grounds. Things were really seeming like racial tensions were fading away.
Then, some time around the late 90s or so it seems, the issue of race made a huge resurgence thanks in part to to All Sharpton, Jessy Jackson and other professional race baiters. Suddenly, everything that happened was an issue of race and it was as if Blacks made up 50% of the population instead of the actual 12% making them the second largest minority group behind Latinos - a group that we seldom hear from.
Then came the Obama campaign and with his election, many people felt that if nothing else good came of it, at least all the absurd racism claims would finally become a thing of the past.
But, the opposite came true. The reaction to Obama's election was an almost Pavlovian response of heightened claims of institutional racism. This seems to imply that to many the "white guilt trip" strategy is working and the heat ought to be turned higher.
Today, more than in any time since the civil rights movement of the 60s, anti-black racism has become front page news. That is of course unless the racism is anti-white in which case anyone making mention of it is labeled a racist.
It seems today, every time a mouse farts, it is racism and every time there is real racism, but it is anti-white, the one pointing it out or objecting to it is a bigot. If anything, the Obama election and the appointment of Blacks to high ranking positions has made us more racially divided and not less as we had all hoped.
This is because the democrats have used race relations to help push their agenda forward, by characterizing anyone who opposes them as a racist.
Race has become the political weapon of choice for democrats, to beat their opponents with. Oppose global warming legislation, health care, deficit spending, yadda-yadda-yadda, and they brand you a hateful racist, without the sheets and hood. Thoroughly disgusting.
Racism will unfortunately never go away, especially when we still have groups like the NAACP around and people like Jessie Jackson and others that has to turn every issue into a race issue. And even at the white house level, All charge where dropped on a black panther guy that was standing at the voting polls threating to attack white people who showed up to vote. But Obamas goons said they will not go after voter intimidation cases when a black guy goes after a white guy. Sad. Why can't we all just live our lives and be good people and treat everyone equal. Until everyone wakes up and realize how stupid it is, racism and reverse racism not end.
and especially when you have white nationalist , stormfront , or growing amounts of skinheads also. and la raza or vertain islamic movements.
There are lots of neighborhoods in the corridor that are nice. Its like driving through the twilight zone. Nice big pretty houses, yards well taken care of, nice cars in the drive ways, then pow, boarded windows, burnt out shells, hookers on the corner, etc.
Its not a black or white thing, its racists standing on the corner, and yelling racist things at people.
If a black telephone worker was standing on a corner, and working on something, and some white guys started yelling racial slurs at him, it would be no different. He pays taxes, he is providing a service. He has just as much a right to be there as anyone else.
You said that I was asking for it for standing on a street corner in a bad neighborhood at 3am. I'm not asking for anything, I'm asking to do my job, which they want me to do so their damn phones will work.
I'm done with this now. Its obvious you're being an apologist, and thats just wrong. As I said, there are racists on both sides. The sooner ANYONE stops taking up, or making excuses for them, the better off we'll be, and the sooner we'll get this issue behind us as a country, and a species.
Do you know why ambulances have to have a police escort when they go to a call in Detroit? Its because sometimes when the ambulance came people would shoot at the paramedics who was trying to help the victim. Detroit is not Disney Land and I feel no EXTRA sympathy for white folks that have to deal with a very small percentage of black folks who are nuckle heads. I can remember when a lot of Nigerians who were operating Ice Cream trucks and driving Taxis in the City were getting robbed and shot. They thought they were being singled out because they were Nigerian. I mean.....a criminal is doing a benefit cost or benefit risk analasys just like anyone else. Nigerians and white folks might seem like they represent less resistance and risk during a robbery.
That having been said....I have hardly excused or am an apolobist for bad behavior. What I keep telling you is that ACTIONS PRODUCE REACTIONS. Its simply HUMAN NATURE that a percentage of people will likely react a certain way to a history of oppression. There is a very old adage that goes like this: "what you get out of something is what you put into it". There is another saying: "what goes around comes back around". If white folks had RESPECTED these sayings, plus respected that Nature produces reactions to all actions.....then maybe they would not have elivated themselves by putting others down knowing that it would manifest an equal and opposit reaction one day.....for their descendents.
Something else that gets on my nerves---this constant 'liberal vs conservative' stuff that seems to creep into every discussion nowadays...be it on race, politics, health care, who's stronger between the Hulk and Superman, you name it...
I understand completely your not agreeing with a 'liberal' mindset...but how, and I ask this with the utmost sincerity, were you able to discern which posters were liberal or not? That's the kind of clairvoyance I could bottle, sell, and retire off of!
I was under the impression that when the OP started the thread, he was giving his views on racism...I didn't necessarily agree with some of what he said, but nonetheless, he started the thread, and thereby invited discussion on it, which you and I chose to chime in on...that's fact...
But where did this 'liberalism is a mental disorder' stuff come from? Tell me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you're saying that anyone who doesn't see things the way you do is automatically a 'mentally-defiecient liberal', which is as wrong as me labeling everyone who agreed with the OP, or disagreed with me for that matter, as a 'conservative right-wing racist'...we as Americans get absolutely nowhere by spewing stereotypes and placing labels on each other...I'm just sayin'
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Something else that gets on my nerves---this constant 'liberal vs conservative' stuff that seems to creep into every discussion nowadays...be it on race, politics, health care, who's stronger between the Hulk and Superman, you name it...
I understand completely your not agreeing with a 'liberal' mindset...but how, and I ask this with the utmost sincerity, were you able to discern which posters were liberal or not? That's the kind of clairvoyance I could bottle, sell, and retire off of!
I was under the impression that when the OP started the thread, he was giving his views on racism...I didn't necessarily agree with some of what he said, but nonetheless, he started the thread, and thereby invited discussion on it, which you and I chose to chime in on...that's fact...
But where did this 'liberalism is a mental disorder' stuff come from? Tell me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you're saying that anyone who doesn't see things the way you do is automatically a 'mentally-defiecient liberal', which is as wrong as me labeling everyone who agreed with the OP, or disagreed with me for that matter, as a 'conservative right-wing racist'...we as Americans get absolutely nowhere by spewing stereotypes and placing labels on each other...I'm just sayin'
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