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Old 07-24-2010, 09:48 AM
 
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I know of people who have been asked to leave teaching programs because the staff did not think they would be suited to teaching. This woman made other students and her professors uncomfortable by forcing her beliefs on them and broke with the standard protocol of the counseling profession. She should have gone to a Christian counseling program if she wanted to practice outwardly preaching against homosexuality which goes in direct conflict with modern day therapy and psychology practices.

Had a liberal Christian student attended a Christian school and refused to participate in the (theoretical) homosexuality as a choice curriculum, would people be so angry if she was kicked out of the program?
Their is one difference you are forgetting. This is a public school. She has the right to a degree if she passes all the required curricula that any other student passes regardless of her beliefs. If this were a PRIVATE Christian college then they can set whatever standards they want.
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:59 AM
 
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This is such hysteria. As a counselor, she would probably refer the patient to somebody else.
Luckily she is not yet qualified and I hope she never will be as she apparently didn't absorb anything in her studies about the core practices of counselling. I doubt this girl would have the self-awareness of her own prejudices and her own limitations to realise when she should refer someone.

She sounds like she is on a religious crusade to "save the gays" by helping them "pray away the gay". That's not a person who would give up the opportunity to try "convert" some poor unsuspecting self-hating gay person who thinks some therapist can make them straight.
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Which of her Constitutional rights are being violated?


If she's proselytizing on campus, I wouldn't trust her in a 1 on 1 situation.

Perhaps you've heard of freedom of religion.

Isn't it funny that when muslims are raked over the coals the moonbats are all up in arms but when it's a christian......not so much
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:06 AM
 
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Perhaps you've heard of freedom of religion.

Isn't it funny that when muslims are raked over the coals the moonbats are all up in arms but when it's a christian......not so much
Her right, or freedom, to freely practice Christianity is IN NO WAY being denied or affected here.
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:09 AM
 
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Just like homosexuality is a choice, the counselor you see is a choice. Homosexuality is an abnormal mental disease and should be treated as such. This girl paid for her education and should be able to use it as she sees fit.
The girl could be counseling at a mega church or join the Reverend Phelps group.
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:09 AM
 
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Perhaps you've heard of freedom of religion.

Isn't it funny that when muslims are raked over the coals the moonbats are all up in arms but when it's a christian......not so much
First of all, enough of the namecalling.
You look extremely immature when you do it.

Secondly, you have freedom to practice any religion you choose, until it affects others in a clinical situation.
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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First of all, enough of the namecalling.
You look extremely immature when you do it.

Secondly, you have freedom to practice any religion you choose, until it affects others in a clinical situation.
Who's to say it would affect others? Where do you draw the line? Can a white southeerner not be a clinician because they'd have to deal with black people?
OK- let's say a university wouldn't issue a degree to a muslim due to their religious beliefs. Then what? The moonbats would be sreaming bloody murder.
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:23 AM
 
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Their is one difference you are forgetting. This is a public school. She has the right to a degree if she passes all the required curricula that any other student passes regardless of her beliefs. If this were a PRIVATE Christian college then they can set whatever standards they want.
Clearly she hasn't passed the "required curricula" for a degree in Counselling. Awareness of one's own prejudices and beliefs and not forcing one's beliefs on others is one of the core qualities required of an ethical Counsellor.

If she was studying a degree in Accounting, her proselytising behaviour wouldn't matter...

Although if she told a client that one dollar was like a thousand dollars to God, she could have a few problems.
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:39 AM
 
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Who's to say it would affect others? Where do you draw the line? Can a white southeerner not be a clinician because they'd have to deal with black people?
OK- let's say a university wouldn't issue a degree to a muslim due to their religious beliefs. Then what? The moonbats would be sreaming bloody murder.
Go read the Code of Conduct from the American Counselling Association if you want to know where the line is drawn.

If that white Southerner was an active member of the KKK and believed that blacks were sub-human then no, they certainly should not be a counsellor. Same goes for an extremist muslim if they were a member of some jihad group who believed all westerners should be killed.
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:57 AM
 
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Who's to say it would affect others? Where do you draw the line? Can a white southeerner not be a clinician because they'd have to deal with black people?
OK- let's say a university wouldn't issue a degree to a muslim due to their religious beliefs. Then what? The moonbats would be sreaming bloody murder.
Consider yourself filtered.
I don't have any interest in conversing with the willfully obtuse.
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