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Do you folks ever read the articles before commenting on them?
It's not discrimination unless the newest protected group consists of people who won't tell the truth to their childrens' pediatricians about topics that concern the safety of their children.
I am not anti-gun, by the way ... just anti-stupid. (not people on the forum specifically - more just the lady in the article)
Last time I checked, gun ownership was a protected group.. Its in that old worn out document called the Constitution..
Last time I checked, gun ownership was a protected group.. Its in that old worn out document called the Constitution..
That's not why the woman was refused service. It was because she didn't want to answer a safety question. You know that kids are curious, and many gun owners put their guns in "safe" places - up on top of a piece of furniture, hidden in a drawer, under their mattress. Many others put them in gun safes. If this woman had said, "Yes, but they are kept under lock & key so the girls can't get them", the doctor would have gone on.
I went to a new doctor last week, and he asked if we had any guns in the house. At the moment, we don't, and I told him we don't. But we have had, and if we did, I would tell him.
Constitutionality does not enter into this discussion. No one says people with children should give up their guns, only keep them out of their kids' potential reach.
She desperately NEEDS a new pediatrician if the one she has is so obsessive that the Dr. seeks to micro-manage the patient's home. I doubt the patient would have been discharged if she refused to answer the question about a pool. This doctor is covering up an anti-gun agenda.
I suppose the doctor can well afford an expensive alarm system, and even private security guards, to protect his/her home and family. I guess poor families apparently shouldn't be allowed the means to defend themselves or their families when they live in "rough" areas.
There are many ways a gun can be protected from children, including inexpensive trigger locks, small gun safes the only open when a certain code is entered (designed to be done in the dark), etc.
They didn't want these people as patients because the parents were evasive and dishonest. Do you have any idea what kind of problems that can cause? How dangerous that can be? I'm a gun owner and supporter of gun rights, but I face lying, deceiving patients every day who seem to lie just for the sake of lying...they put everyone's safety in jeopardy.
That's not why the woman was refused service. It was because she didn't want to answer a safety question. You know that kids are curious, and many gun owners put their guns in "safe" places - up on top of a piece of furniture, hidden in a drawer, under their mattress. Many others put them in gun safes. If this woman had said, "Yes, but they are kept under lock & key so the girls can't get them", the doctor would have gone on.
I went to a new doctor last week, and he asked if we had any guns in the house. At the moment, we don't, and I told him we don't. But we have had, and if we did, I would tell him.
Constitutionality does not enter into this discussion. No one says people with children should give up their guns, only keep them out of their kids' potential reach.
What does that mean - that he doesn't know how to treat gunshot victims? I don't understand why a doctor would care unless it involved his payment.
Last time I checked, gun ownership was a protected group.. Its in that old worn out document called the Constitution..
Gun ownership is not the subject, although that stupid couple is trying to make it appear that way. If gun ownership is a protected group, which of this stupid lady's civil rights were violated? There is no consitutional right to lie by omission to a physician.
The doctor finished treating her child. He gave her thirty days to find a new physician. How does that harm her children, or 'make them suffer' or cause their civil rights to be violated?
The thread title is misleading. The doctor did not refuse service because the couple purportedly owned a gun. He refused to remain their pediatrician because the mother chose not to cooperate in the overall examination of her child's well-being.
What does that mean - that he doesn't know how to treat gunshot victims? I don't understand why a doctor would care unless it involved his payment.
A pediatrician wouldn't be treating gunshot wounds in an office setting. Any parent who didn't call 911 and get their child to an emergency room in that situation likely won't be a parent long.
Most gun injuries & deaths happen in the home, and people are injured with their own guns. It's a safety issue, and part of a "wholistic" approach to care. Doctors also ask about what children eat on a regular basis, to ensure they are getting proper nutrition - should you say "it's none of your business what I feed my kids"?
And, really, as others have said, it comes down to the doctor-patient relationship. If you can't be honest with your doctor about a potential hazard (not saying these people are irresponsible with their guns - who can tell? They won't.), then you don't trust the doctor. And if you are willing to lie or omit information from your doctor, the doctor cannot trust you.
I am an avid gun supporter and a lifetme NRA member.
However, we refuse to see patients all the time. I review the records of any new patients and probably turn down over half of them for a variety of reasons (usually it is a history of drug abuse).
You can refuse any patient you want in an office setting. If on call, you cannot refuse emergency care at the hospital to anyone. It is not illegal at all and is quite common.
I'm curious, how do you determine a history of drug abuse? It wouldn't rest on one's condition would it? Another words if it's a chonic disease of severe pain would you assume there must be drug abuse?
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