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Old 01-27-2007, 09:46 PM
 
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They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.
I can't even talk the way these people talk:
Why you ain't,
Where you is,
What he drive,
Where he stay,
Where he work,
Who you be...
And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.
And then I heard the father talk
Everybody knows it's important to speak English...
except these knuckleheads.
Mushmouth is what they speak!?
You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.
In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.
People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an education,
and now we've got these knuckleheads throwing that all away.?
The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.
These people are not parenting.
They are buying things for kids. $500 sneakers for what?
And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.
I am talking about these people who cry
when their son is standing there in an orange suit.
Where were you when he was 2?
Where were you when he was 12?
Where were you when he was 18?
And, how come you didn't know that he had a pistol?
And where is the father?
Or who is his father?
People putting their clothes on backward:
Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?
People with their hats on backward,
pants down around the crack,
isn't that a sign of something?
They're walking around with their nasty underwear showing, and
holding onto their pants to keep them from falling to the ground!

Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up?
Isn't it a sign of something
when she has her dress all the way up to her panty line,
and got all types of needle piercings going through her body?
What part of Africa did this come from?
We are not Africans.
Those people are not Africans;
they don't know a thing about Africa .
With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed
and all of that crap, and all of them are in jail.
Brown or black versus the Board of Education
is no longer the white person's problem.
We have got to take the neighborhood back.
People used to be ashamed.
Today a woman has eight children
with eight different 'husbands' --
or men or whatever you call them now.
We have millionaire football players who cannot read.
We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs.
We as black folks have to do a better job.
Someone working at Wal-Mart
with seven kids saying...
you are hurting us.
We have to start holding each other
to a higher standard.
We cannot blame the white people any longer.
It is not for media or anyone of this time
anymore to say whether I'm right or wrong.
It is time, ladies and gentlemen,
to look at the numbers.
Fifty percent of our children are dropping out of high school.
Sixty percent of the incarcerated males happen to be illiterate.
There's a correlation.

Tell the media to stop asking me what I think about people
who don't believe what I'm saying or feel that I'm too harsh or feel
that I'm just running my mouth because I'm old.
Seventy percent of the teenagers pregnant happen to be African American girls.
Don't ask me to soften my message.

Bill Cosby
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:07 PM
 
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And placed in context, Mr. Cosby goes on to say,

http://www.hofmag.com/content/view/301/30/1/1/ (broken link)

Bill Cosby made all these remarks; and he stands by these remarks, but in the context of love of his people, not antagonism and not the kind of blame some may perceive. But wake up, man!
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:16 PM
 
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The sad truth is that he's being demonized for these statements and they're saying that he's out of touch with mainstream blacks. He's genuinely trying to get a positive message out there for blacks to be successful in America. It's sad that so few people seem to be listening.
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:31 PM
 
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The sad truth is that he's being demonized for these statements and they're saying that he's out of touch with mainstream blacks. He's genuinely trying to get a positive message out there for blacks to be successful in America. It's sad that so few people seem to be listening.
You know what is not sad? It is not sad that people like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters, and etc, would be out of a job if blacks in America did what Mr. Cosby talks about doing.

These so called "leaders" in the black community are the ones who have a choke hold on their own people. They cripple them by using the old blame game...............You know, It's your fault, so I can sit back and blame you for everything that goes wrong in my life, and I won't have to apply myself to any good thing that will better myself and my community.

Lord willing, more and more people will begin to listen to Bill Cosby, and tell Jesse Jackson to take a very long walk.

Last edited by BerryPie; 01-27-2007 at 10:34 PM.. Reason: added a word
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:41 PM
 
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I dont blame it all on the parents, peer pressure, peer pressure, peer pressure. I cant say it enough!
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Old 01-28-2007, 12:42 AM
 
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You know what is not sad? It is not sad that people like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters, and etc, would be out of a job if blacks in America did what Mr. Cosby talks about doing.
Maxine Waters is in Congress. You don't think her district would need a person in Congress? It's silly to think that her job would disappear just because blacks read and followed the first post.

Ditto with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. They are ministers. If EVERYONE in America read the first post and followed it, they would still be here! Our freakin' government is so disrespected in so many places they are sending Jesse Jackson out to negotiate for them!
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Old 01-28-2007, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Deep In The Heat Of Texas
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BerryPie,

I'm so glad you posted Bill Cosby's message. I have been wanting to but hesitated.

I'm saddened to see that not only are the blacks talking the way they learned to talk, but many whites and Hispanics have picked up on it. That is very disheartening to me because it isn't cute, it's totally ignorant. I hear it every day in the educational field of which I'm employed.

What's even possibly sadder is the blacks I know with college degrees talk the same way albeit lessened a tad. But then too, there are the whites with college degrees that talk very poorly as well. It doesn't even take a college degree to speak properly; it's something we all should have learned very early in life.

I should have WENT to the store.

Was it HER that phoned me?

The STUDENT must turn in THEIR report card.

So, it's a real problem in this country. If educators can't speak properly, how are the children supposed to learn?

I just don't get it.
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Old 01-28-2007, 09:23 AM
 
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I love Bill Cosby for what he is trying to do, elevate the plight of less advantaged, uneducated black students. What he has to say should influence every one of us, of all colors and ethnicities--it is a great message for us ALL.

Good post KewGee. My nephew is white, in an Ivy League school and always using bad grammar. I asked him once about diagramming a sentence. He had no idea what I was talking about, meaning he does not know the parts of speech!! This is the state of our education system today, shameful. And he is one of the "advantaged"....
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Old 01-28-2007, 10:15 AM
 
Location: N.H.
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I dont blame it all on the parents, peer pressure, peer pressure, peer pressure. I cant say it enough!
Typical Liberal, Typical Liberal, Typical Liberal, People Don't raise their kids correctly and it is the Villages fault. OH it is peer presure, BULLCRAP!!!! Raise The kids with morals and With self worth along with Love and happieness and Stop Blamming Everyone for THE LIBERAL SCREW-UPS Take responsability for The actions of the kids and the way they are raised, and stop blaming us. Because Liberals can't show true worth to Their children Doesn't Make us responsable. Bill Cosby is right these ppl are idiots. All he wants to do is help. They are not smart enough to listen than take the kids away. Cosby knows more than most and is willing to say the facts. Unlike the liberals. Who just pass the buck. Maybe Bill Cosby could teach the liberals as well. I doupt it though. they will just blame someone else for the problems.
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Old 01-28-2007, 10:17 AM
 
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I love Bill Cosby for what he is trying to do, elevate the plight of less advantaged, uneducated black students. What he has to say should influence every one of us, of all colors and ethnicities--it is a great message for us ALL.

Good post KewGee. My nephew is white, in an Ivy League school and always using bad grammar. I asked him once about diagramming a sentence. He had no idea what I was talking about, meaning he does not know the parts of speech!! This is the state of our education system today, shameful. And he is one of the "advantaged"....

Thanks, lilypad!!

I admire my daughter greatly as she has her Masters and is well-educated. She worked her head off earning both degrees, bookwise and jobwise. She would have done just fine without college but, of course, she had to have them for what she has chosen to do in life.

I also admire my son greatly who chose not to further his education, but he's doing just fine working in an oil and gas business.

Many people tend to throw that degree stuff around a little too much. I hear it every day at the school where I work. I believe they think it really means something, and it makes many feel powerful. Others do not exhibit such "airs" but use the degree or degrees they earned for their professions. I admire them greatly.

I have a thought that one is either born with smarts or is not. That's a little far-fetched, I know, but in so many cases, it pretty much proves to be a fact. Unfortunately, college is stuffed down the throats of many who have no desire for it but possibly are pushed by their parents to obtain that degree and therefore, many flunk out after one year.

Unfortunately, much common sense it missing nowadays from the college educated and those with only a high school education. I for one only have the high school diploma. Back in the 1960s, I asked my dad about college. He said I was smart enough already and needed to go out and get a job. It sounded like sensible advice to me, so I did it.
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