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Old 08-03-2010, 02:47 AM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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A question, very simple. I would love not to have the mud slinging, etc which will happen, however, here it goes:

Please, liberal's/socialist's, why should my tax dollar go to pay for your health care? Why should my tax dollar go to pay for your child care? In fact, why should my tax dollar go to pay for ANY entitlement program, except for national security, roads, and what we need to survive?

Now, and before it gets started, I'll be honest and up front. NO. I don't care about you. Health care is NOT a right. I believe in Charles Darwin: Survival of The Fittest. If you cannot think, breath, and have a life in this world, then YOU are waste of oxygen and should die. Yeah, let me have it, I don't care. No one care about me, if I were sick, etc. So, why should I care about you?

Child care? You spread your legs, you put it in her. Why should I pay for the kids, YOU did not plan for? Why should my tax dollar go for your kids education, a babysitter, et al? Shouldn't have YOU planned for that, before you had sex? Why is it MY problem, you are irresponsible?

I am serious, I want to know your responses? It would be nice, to hear them, without the slamming/slagging, etc. It won't happen, however, bring it on.
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:08 AM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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A question, very simple. I would love not to have the mud slinging, etc which will happen, however, here it goes:

Please, liberal's/socialist's, why should my tax dollar go to pay for your health care? Why should my tax dollar go to pay for your child care? In fact, why should my tax dollar go to pay for ANY entitlement program, except for national security, roads, and what we need to survive?

Now, and before it gets started, I'll be honest and up front. NO. I don't care about you. Health care is NOT a right. I believe in Charles Darwin: Survival of The Fittest. If you cannot think, breath, and have a life in this world, then YOU are waste of oxygen and should die. Yeah, let me have it, I don't care. No one care about me, if I were sick, etc. So, why should I care about you?

Child care? You spread your legs, you put it in her. Why should I pay for the kids, YOU did not plan for? Why should my tax dollar go for your kids education, a babysitter, et al? Shouldn't have YOU planned for that, before you had sex? Why is it MY problem, you are irresponsible?

I am serious, I want to know your responses? It would be nice, to hear them, without the slamming/slagging, etc. It won't happen, however, bring it on.

This should be a riot to hear what the lefty's say!
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:11 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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This should be a riot to hear what the lefty's say!
I was just thinking the same thing. All you can do is sit back and watch. I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:15 AM
 
Location: texas
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What no takers yet?? How suprising....
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:19 AM
 
Location: California
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What no takers yet?? How suprising....
Seriously? It's 1:20am pacific time. I'm only awake becasue I have insomnia.

And OP, if you want a serious debate without mudslinging why do you immediately start out by mudslinging? Do you really think all liberals are socialists? And that's only the first 3 words of your post.
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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What no takers yet?? How suprising....
Hmm, I don't know, perhaps the whole waste of oxygen and die part of the OP completely destroyed any chance of having any type of debate in this thread??
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:46 AM
 
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Yeah, what's the point in discussing anything regarding social programs with someone who believes that Darwinism applies to human society? Do the poor deserve to die because they can't afford health insurance? That's basically what social Darwinists believe. I guess that rich kid is just a better, more fit person.
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Zürich, Schweiz
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I would love not to have the mud slinging, etc which will happen
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If you cannot think, breath, and have a life in this world, then YOU are waste of oxygen and should die.



It's a question of priorities, and what you think makes up essential services of the government. You claim that you see Healthcare as no such service, others do. You might deem a strong military as essential, while others wouldn't.

Social Darwinism in its purest form is the superiority of the physically stronger over the weaker. In such a scenario, anyone stronger than you can take what they want from you, simply because they are stronger.
To counter this, we have established laws and law-enforcing agencies. These things have to be paid for, enter taxes (or equivalents). At this point, somebody (perhaps one of the guys stronger than you) might say, "hey, why should I have to pay money so that the patsies are protected? I don't need protection! Defend yourself or perish!"

It comes down to how you envision society, on a egoistical-altruistical scale. Personally, I think that the strong should look after the weak, and thus support healthcare.

Good enough?
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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Yeah, what's the point in discussing anything regarding social programs with someone who believes that Darwinism applies to human society? Do the poor deserve to die because they can't afford health insurance? That's basically what social Darwinists believe. I guess that rich kid is just a better, more fit person.
Absolutely not. I am NOT rich. But, I don't care about you or anyone else. My money shouldn't be taken away from me, without my consent, because you can't be a rocket scientist. The fact you cannot be, isn't my fault. I have a high school education and NOTHING more. I am not rich.

So again, why should I pay for your health care, because you are poor?

And, once again, for everyone else who has slammed me, of course you can't answer my question. You just slam me. You still haven't answered why my tax dollar should go to your health care or child care? Except the fact you are lazy and don't/didn't plan for your life. So you want to screw the rest of us.

So please, tell me, once again, WHY I should pay for healthcare? Why should I pay for YOUR childcare? WHY? I am waiting...
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:55 AM
 
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First of all, if you're going to say you believe in Darwinism, understand what that means.

You should pay for health care and child care because it benefits basically everyone. If you fall on hard times, everyone else will be pitching in to make sure you have healthcare and that your kid gets a decent education. Society gets better when more people have a better standard of living. Less crime, less ignorance, etc. It's that simple.

Also, stop acting like you're being persecuted when you spew out vile nonsense about wanting people to go die. If you're not rich, you shouldn't have to pay much. If you're extremely rich, you should pay much more.
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