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Old 08-04-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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you hate the facts and the Constitution?
I take it you dont work in an industrial job.
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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you hate the facts and the Constitution?
What about constitution? Your graph certainly ain't, so an argument placed against it isn't constitution either. Do you have ANY idea what the constitution entails?

Getting back to the graphs, do you hate graphs that provide greater clarity, more detailed information and a broader perspective? Yes? Because the graph you're using as an argument against Old Gringo's is suggesting just that. Need your confirmation so we can move on.

There is another thread on constitution. See you there on that subject.
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Smile Oh, yeah?

You said:

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good post. You show proof of fatalities coming down nicely before Osha. Osha did very little to improve on this.
Then you posted THIS graph...

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http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/files/2010/05/Workplace-Fatalities-since-1971.jpg (broken link)

lol you sure do have trouble looking back at posts


(http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/files/2010/05/Workplace-Fatalities-since-1971.jpg - broken link)

What I DON'T have trouble with is READING graphs. As in the case of the sharp decline in deaths after the OHSA ACT of 1970 went into effect.
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Old 08-04-2010, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Rand Paul wants to remove all workplace regulation aaaah! Nevermind that's technically not his position but if it was...

What would we do without OSHA! Oops here's a chart showing workplace fatalities before and after OSHA was created (h/t John Stossel):



What HAVOC! Wait a minute...no noticeable difference....you don't say

How is it possible that when there was the ANARCHY of no OSHA that incidents still declined? And there's no dramatic drop you'd expect after this ANARCHY was removed
Could it be that OTHER workplace safety regulations went into effect way before OSHA? Could it be that these regulations might have resulted in improved worker safety?

Possibly? Maybe? Or would that reality conflict with your strongly held misconception?

History of Work Accidents: Improvements in Workplace Safety 1900-1999

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Could it be that workers and employers still care now as they did before the 70's about the safety of the workplace and don't feel like working in death traps, or killing employees?

Liberals ar just looking for any excuse to trash a liberty loving candidate.

Hmmmm...

From your graph, it shows that workplace deaths decreased from about 18 per 100k before OSHA to around 3 per 100k now, yet you say there's no decline.

Interesting...
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Old 08-04-2010, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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you hate the facts and the Constitution?

The fact is that the constitution requires the feds to regulate interstate commerce. You keep ignoring that inconvenient fact.
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Old 08-04-2010, 11:09 AM
 
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Could it be that OTHER workplace safety regulations went into effect way before OSHA? Could it be that these regulations might have resulted in improved worker safety?
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From your graph, it shows that workplace deaths decreased from about 18 per 100k before OSHA to around 3 per 100k now, yet you say there's no decline.

Interesting...
Oh noes

Also, Mrs McConnell boasted that workplace deaths went down during her tenure, but that was because so many mfg jobs moved out the country
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Yeah, water pollution should be of concern, not people's safety.
When did I say peoples safety isn't a concern?

I said its a states concern, not the federal governments. Please don't put words in my text.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I simply don't get it.

Who in their right mind would oppose better safety regulations?
Federal regulation, I oppose. State regulation, no problem with.

At least in state and local matters. Mines are state problems, not federal. The government can regulate how many mines there are, and can be used, but safety shouldn't be their concern. Your state has that right, just as they get to regulate the speed limit, not the federal government.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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What a bunch of selfish, greedy malcontents workers are.
Who said this?

I know I didn't
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Federal regulation, I oppose. State regulation, no problem with.

At least in state and local matters. Mines are state problems, not federal. The government can regulate how many mines there are, and can be used, but safety shouldn't be their concern. Your state has that right, just as they get to regulate the speed limit, not the federal government.

I see.

So, what you're saying is that you don't agree with the US Constitution. Interesting.
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