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Old 08-03-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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I chose to get an education, so I didn't have to make that choice.

Others are free to do the same.

As I said, no one is putting a gun to anyones head, and forcing them down that hole. Money compels them to do that, but its a choice, not forced labor.
Then according to you, only retards and disadvantaged should work menial/back-breaking jobs while the rest of the country "should get an education", huh?

Education only gets you so far whilst sinking in debt.
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Old 08-03-2010, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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no let's NOT let the industry regulate itself...let's allow the STATES to regulate that industry


this should be a state issue not a fed issue
Why?
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Mining is a States resource!
The States should control all regulation, because the Federal Government has no business in State affairs.
Federal Regulation of mining is not their business.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Then according to you, only retards and disadvantaged should work menial/back-breaking jobs while the rest of the country "should get an education", huh?

Education only gets you so far whilst sinking in debt.
Or those without the drive to go to college themselves.

We have boundless resources of student aide, government back loans, grants, etc so that anyone can go to school, if they want to.

If they don't take advantage of that, and decide to crawl in a cave for a living, thats their decision.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:10 PM
 
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Why?
Because the Constitution does not say "the federal government should regulate mine safety" anywhere. It does say "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States" however.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Mining is a States resource!
The States should control all regulation, because the Federal Government has no business in State affairs.
Federal Regulation of mining is not their business.
Resources belong to the nation. States benefit, but ultimately the commerce clause in the constitution applies which affords the power to regulate commerce. You think of the USA as if it were a collection of countries. That would be USSR.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:14 PM
 
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How does mine safety (a labor issue) relate to commerce?

BTW, resources don't belong to the country, or the state for that matter. They belong to the private company that mines or harvests them.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:16 PM
 
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Resources belong to the nation. States benefit, but ultimately the commerce clause in the constitution applies which affords the power to regulate commerce. You think of the USA as if it were a collection of countries. That would be USSR.
I'm curious how you interpret the interstate commerce clause to be applicable to intrastate mining?

I realize the federal government has long used the interstate commerce clause to insert themselves into state affairs but that doesn't make their actions right.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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How does mine safety (a labor issue) relate to commerce?

BTW, resources don't belong to the country, or the state for that matter. They belong to the private company that harvests them.
The government can regulate mines, to keep the price at a level they want. Its a natural resource, thats why there aren't oil rigs everywhere.

Otherwise, states would allow miners to strip all of the natural resources for a quick buck, and then we'd be SOL because we'd have no more natural resources.

Still doesn't mean they should regulate safety, completely different issue.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:20 PM
 
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. You think of the USA as if it were a collection of countries. That would be USSR.

are we not the united STATES....we are not the country of america...we are the united STATES of america
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