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View Poll Results: Would you like to see same-sex marriage become legal where you live?
It is already legal where I live 18 6.02%
Yes 184 61.54%
No 92 30.77%
Not sure 5 1.67%
Voters: 299. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-05-2010, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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For all you lovers of religious control of others the boat is leaving for Iran shortly. Hop onboard. Do the rest of us a solid.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:54 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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No. Because marriage as one-man and one-woman is status quo, and the widely accepted norm.

I would compare that white judges were not biased against arguments regarding constitutional protections based on race. However the difference is that there is not a disagreement that people are born or aren't born black, white, or Asian, etc. There is disagreement as to whether someones sexual preference is an innate characteristic.
Again... no.

He's a judge and any judge that would let their sexuality influence their ruling on a case concerning a legal question wouldn't be fit to sit on the bench. And, there is nothing to indicate this judge is unqualified.

For what it's worth, I do believe that the California judges that allowed same sex marriage were heterosexual. Seems that there is a legal consistency here not dependent on the sexuality of the judges.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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According to the people of California AND the Sup. Court of California, it was not.
The supreme court of california upheld the voting part of Prop. 8, nto Prop. 8 itself.

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Based on ONE gay judges ruling, 7 million votes were nullified.
7 million votes that should've never been cast in the first place.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:55 AM
 
Location: 38°14′45″N 122°37′53″W
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Power Line - Today's Proposition 8 Decision

Unbelievable. Needs to be overturned/successfully appealed.
Conflict of interest big-time.
No, absolutely not.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:56 AM
 
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What is with you conservatives....you guys really do hate the Constitution.

For what now the umpteenth time....read the 14th Amendment.

Rights are not allowed to be voted upon, nor shall any state make a law or enforce laws the ABRIDGE the rights of any citizen of the United States.

Is this starting to sound like a broken record?
and when will you read it

marriage is not a right...it is a privilege YOU PAY FOR to the government

if we went with the 14th...then MARRIAGE ITSELF is unconstitutional, as it gives and denys rights, privileges and benefits to some but not others


but you liberals dont care..you are all greedy..its about what bennies can I get from the government
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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The judge is trying to suggest that their are constitutional protections regarding sexual orientation, and that is not true.
Yes, actually, it is true.

Or else it would be legal to discriminate based upon sexual orientation.

@Topic: No matter what, there would have been bias.

Anyone who actually read the court transcripts can clearly see that the Prop 8. lawyers didn't have a case.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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C'mon... by that reasoning... wouldn't a heterosexual judge be biased against the gay argument.

Geeez....
Not really. If 50% of people support gay marriage, and given only 5-10% of people are gay, it would seem that the non gays are less biased given that you'd think virtually all gays would support gay marriage, right?
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:58 AM
 
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Of course this gay activist judge would spit on over 7 million voters to push the gay agenda on the people. That is the message that should be put out to the people. In California, your vote does not count!
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Again... no.

He's a judge and any judge that would let their sexuality influence their ruling on a case concerning a legal question wouldn't be fit to sit on the bench. And, there is nothing to indicate this judge is unqualified.

For what it's worth, I do believe that the California judges that allowed same sex marriage were heterosexual. Seems that there is a legal consistency here not dependent on the sexuality of the judges.

The legal consistency is for these arrogant slobs to legislate from the bench in direct defiance of the expressed will of the people.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Why are people acting like marriage is some new thing that America came up with?

It's almost as if no one's actually done research into the subject, and are just going off of gut reactions.
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